Nonlinear Systems & Weighted Sum of Impulses

In summary, for a linear system, sending x(t) through will give the same output as if we took the weighted sum of x(t) impulses. For a nonlinear system, this is not always the case.
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Hello, my question is that almost all textbooks say that a linear system will give the output to a weighted sum of impulses which equals the superposition of scaled responses to each of the shifted impulses. But if we apply the same input which is a weighted sum of impulses to a non linear time invariant system, we will get the same output. Because a linear system and a non linear system are two separate systems only when 2 inputs are SIMULTANEOUSLY applied. But here we are just applying a single input REPRESENTED as a weighted sum of impulses. Is that true?
 
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We can choose to view a signal as a sum of several weighted impulses. Mathematically it is the same.

In a linear system, the input x(t) will give an output y(t). If we decompose x(t) into several impulses, and then send each of these impulses through the system one after each other, we will end up with a response for each impulse.

If we add up the responses, we will find that the total response is the same as it was, when we just sent the signal x(t) through the system.

For a NON-linear system. A signal x(t) will provide a response y(t). If we do as before, and send each impulse through the system they will each provide a response. HOWEVER, if we add these responses together, we cannot be sure that the total response will be the same as for the total input x(t).

So for a non-linear system, we shouldn't think about decomposing a signal into several parts, because it won't work. Only for linear system should we think about this.
 
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Thankyou but what is the difference between sending signal x(t) and sending its weighted sum which goes one by one ? I mean its the same right?
 
  • #4
No its not the same. By "one by one" I don't mean we send the weighted sum through. I mean we take ONE of the impulses and use it as an input. Then we record the output. Then we take ANOTHER impulse and use it as an input. Another output is recorded.

If we afterwards take each of our outputs and add them together, we would see that for a linear system, the sum of these outputs are exactly the same, as if we instead of taking one impulse at a time, had taken the signal x(t) which could be represented by a weighted sum of these impulses.

The weighted sum and x(t) are the same. But the impulses that make up the weighted sum, can be treated as individual signals, and we can look at the one-by-one.

For a linear system, the two ways of doing it (ie. using x(t) (aka the weighted sum), or recording each response from each impulse and then adding will give us the same).
For a non-linear system, these two ways do NOT necessarily provide the same result.

Does that help? :)
 
  • #5
Ok, I think I am getting what you are saying. But doesn't an input x(t) when applied, BEHAVE like a weighted sum of impulses?

Lets say

x(t)→y(t)=x^2(t)

This is clearly a non linear system.
Now if we take an input x(t) = x(t1)δ(t-t1) + x(t2)δ(t-t2)

If we treat
x1(t) = x(t1)δ(t-t1)
x2(t) = x(t2)δ(t-t2)

If we see this will give us the output we DID NOT expect.

x^2(t) = x^2(t1)δ^2(t-t1) + x^2(t2)δ^2(t-t2) + (a term whose value is zero)
= x1^2(t) + x2^2(t) Can u please give me an example ?

Thanx a lot :)
 
  • #6
y(t) = x2(t) + 1

This is also a nonlinear system.

If
x1(t) = x(t1) δ(t-t1)
x2(t) = x(t2) δ(t-t2)

y1(t) = x2(t1) δ2(t-t1) + 1
y2(t) = x2(t2) δ2(t-t2) + 1

y1(t) + y2(t) = x2(t1) δ2(t-t1) + x2(t2) δ2(t-t2) + 2

However

x3(t) = x1(t) + x2(t)

y3(t) = = x1(t)2 + x2(t)2 + 1 (as before the third term from the result of the squaring will be zero)

= x2(t1) δ2(t-t1) + x2(t2) δ2(t-t2) + 1

y3 ≠ y1 + y2

In conclusion:

While you might find some systems where it works. Not all will :)
 
  • #7
Thanx a lot Runei :)
 

1. What is a nonlinear system?

A nonlinear system is a type of mathematical system where the output is not directly proportional to the input. This means that the relationship between the input and output is not a straight line, and the system's behavior cannot be easily predicted using linear equations.

2. How are nonlinear systems different from linear systems?

The main difference between nonlinear and linear systems is that linear systems follow the principle of superposition, meaning that the effect of multiple inputs can be added together to determine the overall output. Nonlinear systems, on the other hand, do not follow this principle and may exhibit behaviors such as oscillations, chaos, or saturation.

3. What is the weighted sum of impulses?

The weighted sum of impulses is a mathematical concept used to describe the behavior of nonlinear systems when they receive multiple inputs in the form of short, intense bursts called impulses. The weight of each impulse represents its magnitude, and the sum of all the impulses determines the overall output of the system.

4. How is the weighted sum of impulses used in studying nonlinear systems?

The weighted sum of impulses is a useful tool for studying nonlinear systems because it allows for the analysis of complex, non-linear behaviors using a simpler, linear approach. By breaking down the system's response into individual impulses, it becomes easier to understand and predict the system's behavior.

5. What are some real-life examples of nonlinear systems?

Nonlinear systems can be found in various fields, including physics, biology, economics, and engineering. Some common examples include the behavior of a pendulum, the growth of a population, the stock market, and the dynamics of chemical reactions. The human brain is also a complex nonlinear system that can exhibit unpredictable behaviors, such as emotions and thoughts.

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