HI Cloud & 21cm Line: Calculate, Ratio & Luminosity

In summary, the cloud of temperature T has a ratio of 3:1 between the hydrogen atoms in the upper and lower states of the 21 cm line. The Attempt at a Solution suggests that for any temperature there will be more atoms in a lower state of energy, so the higher energy state has fewer atoms. However, this approach doesn't seem to work because the H atoms are radiating at a single wavelength and not a blackbody spectrum. The best way to figure out the relationship between H21 luminoscity and the mass is to use the formula L = 4\pi r^2 \sigma T^4 and the fact that v = \frac{m}{\rho}.
  • #1
TFM
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Homework Statement



Consider an HI cloud of temperature T ≥ 3 K.

a)

Calculate the energy level difference between the hydrogen atom states leading to 21cm line emission. Show that the ratio of hydrogen atoms in the upper to the lower state of the 21 cm line is approximately 3:1.

b)

Assuming the cloud to be optically thin, find a relation between the total 21 cm Luminosity (in Watts) and the mass of HI (in solar masses). The decay rate is [tex]A_{21} ≈ (1.1 × 10^7 yr)^{−1}[/tex].


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The Attempt at a Solution



I have done the first part of a), finding the Energy Difference. I got this to be

[tex] 9.43*10^{-25} [/tex]Joules.

I thought the formula for the second part opf a, showing the ratio is approx. 3, required this formula:

[tex] \frac{n_2}{n_1} = exp(\frac{-(e_2 - E_1)}{kT}) [/tex]

However, this doesn't give me a reasonable value, the value comes a=out to be about 1.

I am also slight uncertain about what to do on part b.

Any ideas would be most appreciated,

TFM
 
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  • #2
(a) You did the calculation correctly, but have left out a key factor.

Hint:
For any temperature, a state of higher energy will always have fewer atoms than a state of lower energy. This is because the expression

n2/n1 = e-ΔE/kT

is always less than 1, for any temperature.

How then might it be possible for the higher energy to have 3 times as many atoms as the lower energy?
 
  • #3
Redbelly98 said:
(a) You did the calculation correctly, but have left out a key factor.

Hint:
For any temperature, a state of higher energy will always have fewer atoms than a state of lower energy. This is because the expression

[tex] n_2/n_1 = e{-\Delta E/kT} [/tex]

is always less than 1, for any temperature.

How then might it be possible for the higher energy to have 3 times as many atoms as the lower energy?

It would seem to be impossible then, if for any temperature there will be always be more atoms in a lower state of energy.
 
  • #4
If there were really just one upper state and just one lower state, that would be true.
 
  • #5
Well, wouldn't there be two upper and lower states, since the proton/electron pair can be either parallel up or parallel down (higher energy) or anti-parallel, with either the electron up/proton down or proton up/electron down?
 
  • #6
While that appears to be a reasonable way of thinking about it ... it's incorrect :-(

Instead, think of: what is the total spin S when both spins are parallel? How many mS values are there for this value of S?
 
  • #7
Well, when they are parallel, the spin will be either positive or negative 1, since they will be either both plus half, or both minus half. When they are anti-parallel, the total spin will be 0, since they will always be one positive half, one negative half.
 
  • #8
Okay, good. (Actually the parallel case is "spin = 1", since we are just talking about the magnitudes of the spin).

How many states exist for spin=1? And for spin=0? Hint: this is the m quantum number.
 
  • #9
Looking through my noted, but all I am getting is m_s = plus/minus one half, which doesn't seem to work for this.

would it be m = 0 for s = 0, and m = -1, 0, 1 for s = 1?
 
  • #10
TFM said:
would it be m = 0 for s = 0, and m = -1, 0, 1 for s = 1?

Yes, that's right.
 
  • #11
So there is three upper states, and only one lower state, would this how the 3:1 ratio?
 
  • #13
Excellent.

So for the next part, what is the best way to show the relationship between H21 luminoscity and the mass. So would the right thing to be to use the fomrula:

[tex] L = 4\pi r^2 \sigma T^4 [/tex]

and the fact that:

[tex] v = \frac{m}{\rho}[/tex]

and for a sphere:

[tex] v = \frac{4}{3}\pi r^3 [/tex]

which can be rearranged to give:

[tex] L = 4\pi \left( ^3\sqrt{\frac{3}{4\pi}\frac{m}{\rho}} \right)^2 \sigma T^4 [/tex]

where it is cube root,

however, this doesn't use the decay rate that is given...?
 
  • #14
That approach doesn't work, since the H atoms are radiating at a single wavelength, and not a blackbody spectrum.

Probably best to think first what would be the luminosity of one single H atom. Then figure out how many H atoms there are.
 
  • #15
well the luminosity is the energy radiated over time, now we know the energy difference. Would that be useful?
 
  • #16
Yes. And, the average time it takes to radiate that energy is useful as well.
 

1. What is HI Cloud?

HI Cloud, also known as a neutral hydrogen cloud, is a large concentration of neutral hydrogen gas in interstellar space.

2. How is the 21cm line used in astronomy?

The 21cm line is an emission line of neutral hydrogen that is used to study the distribution and movement of hydrogen gas in galaxies, providing valuable information about their structure and dynamics.

3. How do you calculate the ratio of HI Cloud to total gas in a galaxy?

The ratio of HI Cloud to total gas in a galaxy can be calculated by dividing the mass of neutral hydrogen gas (HI) by the total mass of all gas (HI + HII + H2). This ratio is often used to determine the gas content and star formation potential of a galaxy.

4. What is the luminosity of an HI Cloud?

The luminosity of an HI Cloud refers to the amount of energy emitted by the neutral hydrogen gas. It is typically measured in units of solar luminosity (L☉) and can be calculated by multiplying the mass of HI Cloud by the average velocity of the gas.

5. Why is studying HI Clouds important in astronomy?

Studying HI Clouds is important in astronomy because they are the raw material for star formation and play a crucial role in the evolution of galaxies. By analyzing the properties of HI Clouds, we can gain a better understanding of the processes that shape the universe.

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