Understanding the Function of a Narrow Band-Pass Filter and its Transitions

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The discussion revolves around understanding the function of a narrow band-pass filter (BPF) and its transitions, focusing on the mathematical representation of the filter's transfer function and its characteristics, including the central frequency and quality factor. Participants explore how to analyze and visualize the filter's behavior.

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  • One participant presents the transfer function of a narrow band-pass filter and seeks assistance in understanding its transitions.
  • Another participant suggests determining the center, upper, and lower cut-off frequencies as a way to approach the problem.
  • A different participant recommends using Excel to plot the transfer function, suggesting specific values for the quality factor Q and a generic central frequency to visualize the filter's response.
  • There is a discussion about finding resources online, with one participant sharing a link to a tutorial on bandpass analog filter transfer functions.
  • Participants exchange tips on improving search techniques for finding relevant information online, discussing the use of advanced search features and keywords.

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Participants generally agree on the importance of understanding the filter's characteristics and suggest various methods to analyze it. However, there is no consensus on specific approaches or resources, as different suggestions are offered without resolution.

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Participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of certain search techniques and the availability of resources in their textbooks, indicating a reliance on external materials for deeper understanding.

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This discussion may be useful for students studying electrical engineering, particularly those focusing on filter design and analysis, as well as individuals seeking to improve their research skills online.

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I was aksed to study and draw the transitions of narrow band-pass filter function gives as :

Av(s)=Ao (s*Wo/Q)*(1/(s^2+s*Wo/Q+Wo^2) ; S Laplace transform


where: Wo is central frequency

Q quality factor Q=Wo/WH-WL=Wo/BW

WH &WL are high cut-off and low cut-off frequency respectively

just need some hits !

thanks in advance!
 
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Whats your problem? Determine the center, upper, and lower cut off frequencies?
 
You can use Excel to plot it to get a feel for what it looks like, although it will plot best in log-log (log frequency on horizontal axis). Start with a Q=1 plot, then overlay Q=10 and Q=0.1 plots. Pick some generic Wo frequency for starters, like 100kHz or something.

What textbook are you using? Most texts should have a good discussion of the BPF transfer function and the effect of the Q factor. If your text is lacking, there are lots of resources on the web. I googled bandpass analog filter transfer function tutorial, and got lots of good hits. Here's one -- scroll down to some of the Filter Design articles:

http://www.circuitsage.com/filter.html
 
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oh ,berkeman thanks you for your googling , sometimes i google for various things but I find out that you have good experience in selecting keywords, is there any generic rule to precisely find what you need through google or that just depends on repitation?!

thanks a lot!
 
Mostly getting better at google involves trying out stuff, and learning some of the advanced features. Check out the advanced feature list sometime -- I forget if google supports the "near" keyword, for example. Only some search engines do. Using quotes around multiple word phrases helps a lot in cutting down on the extra search hits that are displayed. And using the + sign before required terms in the search also helps a lot sometimes.

Also, I've lately found the keywork "tutorial" to be real helpful in finding info in the form that helps folks here on PF.
 
berkeman said:
Check out the advanced feature list sometime -- I forget if google supports the "near" keyword, for example.

I didnn't find that feature but there's another feature for finding pages similar to a webpage we detect , and find pages that link to the page!


Page-Specific Search:
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Links Find pages that link to the page
 

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