How Do You Calculate Cp and Cv for a Specific Fluid?

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding the values of Cp and Cv for a certain fluid, as well as determining the net work done in a process involving the expansion of the fluid in a piston and cylinder. The first law of thermodynamics is used to solve for the net work, taking into account that there is no heat transfer. The values of Cp and Cv are found by differentiating the given equations and using the definitions of enthalpy and specific internal energy.
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Hi,

I'm stuck. Can someone help me out?

Problem:
The properties of a certain fluid are related as follows:

u=196+0.718t

pv=0.287(t+273)

(a)where 'u' is the specific internal energy(Kj kg), t is in degress Celsius, p is pressure(Kn/m2) and v is specific volume (m3 kg).For this fluid. Find Cp and Cv

(b)A system composed of 2 kg of the above fluid expands in a frictionless piston and cylinder from an initial state of 1 Mpa, 100degrees Celsius to a final temp of 30degress Celsius.If there is no heat transfer, find the net work for the process.
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This is what i have tried:

in (a), i tried to link the two equations together, so that i could get 'u' and 'pv' in the same equation:

u=196+2.5(pv-78.35)

I'm stuck now.How do i proceed? i know the formula for cp and cv, which is Cp=(do)u/(do)t

cv=(do)Q/(do)T .How do i use these formulas with respect to the above equation?

(b)I'm totally confused on this one. I don't know where to start.All i could understand is to find the work done, and that Q=0.

Thanks.
 
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Hi, sorry I haven't responded before now.

Ibn_Nizar said:
in (a), i tried to link the two equations together, so that i could get 'u' and 'pv' in the same equation:

u=196+2.5(pv-78.35)

I'm stuck now.How do i proceed?

You should have the following relations handy:

[tex]c_v=\left(\frac{\partial u}{\partial T}\right)_P[/tex]

[tex]c_p=\left(\frac{\partial h}{\partial T}\right)_v[/tex]

You should also know the definition of enthalpy.

(b)I'm totally confused on this one.

Start by writing down the first law for the system.

[tex]Q_{NET}+W_{NET}+E_{mass,NET}=\Delta U + \Delta KE + \Delta PE[/tex]

Now you've already noted that you can set [itex]Q_{NET}=0[/itex]. What else can you set equal to zero? And what else do you know?
 
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Hi,
just do these things:
for Ques a)
Cv=du/dt=d(196+0.718t)/dt

after differentiating wrt to t u will get Cv=0.718 Ans

And Cp= dh/dt=d(u+pv)/dt=du/dt+d(pv)/dt
=d(196+0.718t)/dt + d(0.287(t+273))/dt
Cp= 0.718 + 0.287
Cp=1.005 Ans

For Ques b):

dQ=dU+dW as per first law of thermodynaimcs
but as there is no heat transfer therefore dQ=0. So above equation becomes
dW= - dU= - (u2-u1)= u1-u2

at t=100 C, u1= 196+(0.718*100)
& at t=30 C, u2= 196+ (0.718*30)

so dW= u1-u2= 50.26 (By solving above two equations of u1 & u2)

therefore for 2 Kg of fluid dW= 2 x 50.26 KJ = 100.52 KJ Ans
 

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