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fedorfan
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Jan21-07, 04:30 PM
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Does anyone know what the highest rpm in the universe is?
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Jan21-07, 05:55 PM
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RPM? are you talking about tires or computers or what

if its speed related dont doubt the power of c
Crosson
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Jan21-07, 10:38 PM
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Does anyone know what the highest rpm in the universe is?
No, but John Wheeler would jokingly discuss the maximum upper limit on horsepower (about 10^64), an engine with which would instantly rip itself into a black hole .

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Jan22-07, 06:28 PM
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Highest RPM?

My best guess would be a turbocharger at like 180,000 rpm. I guess the universal speed limit would be the speed of light. Also, Im talking about whatever is rotating the fastest. Not pkanets or something though, I mean revolutions per minute, not year.
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Jan23-07, 12:18 AM
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My best guess would be a turbocharger at like 180,000 rpm.
This illustrates the problem with the question, because RPM on its own has no limit (as the revolving system decreases in radius). Using a radius about one meter, the speed of light limits us to an RPM of about 18 billion, so that is a safe upper limit.
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Jan23-07, 04:34 PM
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My semi-educated guess is that the fastest that anyone will ever likely run across in reality would be a black hole. Since the angular momentum of the remains of the original star is conserved, those suckers can spin.
fedorfan
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Jan23-07, 08:25 PM
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Yeah danger, thats probably a very close guess, although I suspect a microscopic black would be even faster.
fedorfan
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Jan27-07, 07:57 PM
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Noone else knows anything?
spartinf
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Apr6-07, 11:24 AM
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I'd say it is the flagellum at up to 17,000 rpm....if you look at a figure of it you'll be pretty amazed at it's complexity and sophistication
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Apr6-07, 11:30 AM
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My best guess would be a turbocharger at like 180,000 rpm. I guess the universal speed limit would be the speed of light. Also, Im talking about whatever is rotating the fastest. Not pkanets or something though, I mean revolutions per minute, not year.
Electrons around nuclei in atoms good enough candidates?
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Apr6-07, 08:20 PM
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To start with, that would be revolving, not rotating... but it doesn't count anyhow. As for the electron spin component, it isn't really spin. I think that you pretty much have to stick with macroscopic phenomena.
drboylecj
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Aug10-09, 11:27 PM
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http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadge...est-motor-ever

apparently the highest RPM device in existence?
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Aug11-09, 12:25 AM
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Quote Quote by drboylecj View Post
http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadge...est-motor-ever

apparently the highest RPM device in existence?
Holy ****ing sheepgarbage! 104,000 rpms? Jeez, I thought that those 30,000 rpm satellite stabilization motors were fast. This is just outrageous.
Still, though, for non-man-made objects my money is on the black hole.
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Aug11-09, 12:40 AM
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How could one convince one's self that Dyson's little motor is running at such a high rpm? Even with an oscope, how would one know that the oscope isn't simply picking up "fake" electronic signals from the control circuit? I don't believe that I can hear such a high pitch. Maybe some angular momentum test?
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Aug11-09, 01:26 AM
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The maximum RPM in the universe is dependent on the radius of the spinning object.

The formula for calculating velocity of the outer edge of the "wheel" using RPM is:

[tex]\upsilon=C*RPM[/tex]

Therefore:

[tex]RPM=\frac{\upsilon}{C}[/tex]

Plugging the speed of light in for velocity (and making it an inequality to show that it has to be less than c):

[tex]RPM<\frac{c}{C}[/tex]

So the maximum RPM of an object is the speed of light divided by the object's circumference. That means the smaller the object, the faster it can spin.
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Aug11-09, 02:02 AM
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Quote Quote by Superstring View Post
So the maximum RPM of an object is the speed of light divided by the object's circumference. That means the smaller the object, the faster it can spin.
Which brings us back to black holes...
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Quote Quote by Superstring View Post
The maximum RPM in the universe is dependent on the radius of the spinning object.

The formula for calculating velocity of the outer edge of the "wheel" using RPM is:

[tex]\upsilon=C*RPM[/tex]

Therefore:

[tex]RPM=\frac{\upsilon}{C}[/tex]

Plugging the speed of light in for velocity (and making it an inequality to show that it has to be less than c):

[tex]RPM<\frac{c}{C}[/tex]

So the maximum RPM of an object is the speed of light divided by the object's circumference. That means the smaller the object, the faster it can spin.
Well, actually
[tex]\omega < \frac{c}{r}[/tex]
and convert to revolutions per minute. (RPM is a unit, it sows confusion to try to use it as a variable)

I got
[tex]\omega < \frac{2.86\times 10^9\,\mathrm{m}}{r}\cdot\frac{\mathrm{rev}}{\mathrm{min}}[/tex]
so... for something with radius equal to the Planck length, [itex]1.77\times 10^{44}[/itex] revolutions per minute? (If such a thing could exist, of course)
_HL4E_HalfLife_
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Aug12-09, 06:53 PM
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Quote Quote by drboylecj View Post
http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadge...est-motor-ever

apparently the highest RPM device in existence?

WRONG!

1 Million would be the fastest.

http://gizmodo.com/5087710/matchbook...ion-rpm-record


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