Defining the Product of Linear Functionals: Is It Possible?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of defining the product of linear functionals, exploring various mathematical frameworks and implications. Participants examine whether such a product can maintain linearity and how it might be represented within the context of functional analysis and multilinear algebra.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the product of two linear functionals could be defined as composition, suggesting an algebra of functionals.
  • Others argue that defining an "ordinary" product, as the product of the results of the functionals, would violate linearity.
  • One participant notes that since a functional maps functions to numbers, the composition of two functionals does not exist.
  • A suggestion is made to approach the problem using multilinear algebra or tensor calculus, proposing the definition of an outer product of functionals.
  • Another viewpoint states that while one can define the product of two linear functionals, it would not result in a linear functional.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and implications of defining the product of linear functionals, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations regarding the definitions and properties of functionals, particularly concerning linearity and the nature of their outputs.

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Let be a set of LInear functionals U_{n}[f] n=1,2,3,4,...

so for every n U_{n}[\lambda f+ \mu g]=\lambda U_{n}[f]+\mu U[g] (linearity)

the question is if we can define the product of 2 linear functionals so

U_{i}U_{j}[f] makes sense.
 
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Klaus_Hoffmann said:
Let be a set of LInear functionals U_{n}[f] n=1,2,3,4,...

so for every n U_{n}[\lambda f+ \mu g]=\lambda U_{n}[f]+\mu U[g] (linearity)

the question is if we can define the product of 2 linear functionals so

U_{i}U_{j}[f] makes sense.

You can define the product of linear functionals as composition, so you have an algebra of functionals.
 
Defining an "ordinary" product, that is as the product of the results of the functionals would destroy linearity.

Unfortunately, since a "functional" maps functions to numbers, the composition of two functionals does not exist.
 
HallsofIvy said:
Unfortunately, since a "functional" maps functions to numbers, the composition of two functionals does not exist.

Of course, I didn't think about that. :rolleyes:
 
One could procede as in multilinear algebra/tensor calculus and define an outer product.

Thus let u,v be functionals
u,v:V->F
(uv)f=(vf)u

One might say the product between two linear functionals is a bilinear functional.
 
You can trivially define the product (as in multiplication) of two linear functionals. It just isn't a linear functional. A linear function is in particular a C/R/F valued function, so it lies in the algebra of functions, as radou sort of said.
 

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