Finding Explosives with 8 Balls & 2 Weighings

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In summary, the President is going to a ping-pong match in Tokyo and is taking 8 balls with him. One of the balls has been implanted with explosives by a terrorist, but the amount is so small that it cannot be detected. The CIA only has enough time for two weighings before the match. There are multiple solutions to this problem, including weighing groups of balls against each other and eliminating the heavier ball, or simply discarding all the balls and starting with a new batch. However, the question is unclear about the specifics and purpose of the weighing, and it is possible that the solution could vary depending on the political views of the person solving it. Additionally, there is a humorous discussion about the feasibility and practicality of the
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The President is going to a ping-pong match in Tokyo. He is taking
8 balls with him. A terrorist has implanted one of the balls with
explosives, but they add such a small amount that no one can tell the
difference. The CIA has only enough time for TWO weighings before the
match.

I know that you must weigh more than one ball on each scale and that
you can get information from the good batch of balls. Can you help?
 
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Erm, I hate to be a pedant and all, but surely you only need a single ball for a match, so you just need to make sure that one ball has not got the explosive, you can do this by splitting the 8 balls into groups of 4, weigh 2 balls on each side for each group. The group which balances is safe giving you 4 balls to play ping-pong with, which is plenty. Dispose of the rest.
 
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Yeah, the same problem can be stated with a much better scenario. Bringing ping pong balls to Tokyo? They have ping pong balls there already that you can use. Toss the entire batch and get new ones. The CIA only has time for two weighings? I'm sorry Mr. President, but we didn't have time to check thoroughly, you'll have to take your chances.
 
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The problem doesn't even state what you're trying to achieve with these weighings? It also doesn't state whether you're using a balance or scales.

If you got this from a teacher, I would write an answer discussing the many holes in the question.
 
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Don't be so picky. This is an old problem, retold. Getting rid of all of the story-line baggage,

You are given eight objects, seven of which have identical weights and the other of which weighs slightly more than anyone of the seven identical objects. You are to use a balance scale and a balance scale only to identify the heavy object. Moreover, you can only use the scale twice.

If you only had two objects you would simply weight the two objects against each other. The heavier object is instantly identifiable. The eight object problem can be solved with only two weighings. The trick, as the OP noted, is to weigh more than a pair of objects at a time (at least the first time, anyhow).
 
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If you know that the offending ball weighs more, then you can weigh 3 vs 3, if they balance then measure the other 2 and the heavier one is your ball, if they don't then weigh 2 of the heavier 3 against each other, if they balance it's the left over one otherwise it's the heavier one.

Is it possible if you don't know that the other ball is heavier? Or do you need 3 weighings?
 
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You never specified which president was playing the match, you could have a variable of answers depending on your own political views.
 
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You have two cows...
 
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Maybe they're trying to find the one with explosives in it so they can give that one to the president. Given the current president of the US, that would seem the better option.
 
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This is the kind of terrorist dilemma that proves you should only handle your own balls, and never anybody else's.
 
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Weigh 2 balls if there is a mass difference discard the one with the higher mass and if they are the same take both and discard the rest or if they still aren't sure discard all .Im sure Tokyo is at no shortage of ping pong balls. by the way I agree with NeoDevin:approve:
 
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Ok, it took a good 20 minutes but I've got it. Label the balls a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h. Weight a, b, c against d, e, f. If they level out, then weight g against h and you're done. If they don't level out (for simplicity we'll say that a, b, c is heavier), then weight g, b, d against a, e, f. If they level out, then it is c. If g, b, d is heavier, it is b. If a, e, f is heavier, it is a.

:smile:

Edit: I overcomplicated things. It's much more simple to weight d against e for the second weighing.
 
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Assume x = bomb, o = normal

Weigh 3 random balls against 3 other random balls, so that 2 are unweighed.

If the 3 vs. 3 balances, then one of the 2 unweighed is the bomb. Weigh those two and the heavier one is the bomb. (ooo vs ooo = balanced; xo not weighed --> weigh the xo not weighed --> heavier ball is x)

If the 3 vs. 3 is imbalanced, then you know that the bomb is one of the 3 on the heavier side of the scale (ooo vs. oox = imbalanced). From the 3 balls on the heavier side of the scale (oox) weigh 1 random ball against another random ball. If the two sides balance (o vs o; x not weighed), then you know that the unweighed ball is the bomb. If the two sides do not balance (o vs. x) then you know that the ball on the heavier side of the scale is the bomb.
 
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pingpongballs said:
Weigh 3 random balls against 3 other random balls, so that 2 are unweighed.
And see to it that the scales you use are delicate. The weight of the explosives is small when compared to the weight of a ping pong ball. The terrorist was arrested when he purchased a package of band-aids to cover a small burn on one of his fingers from a test explosion gone out of control. Police were on the lookout and had alerted all of the grocery stores, pharmacies, convenience stores and public restroom vending machines.
 
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Lol where did this person get this question? "Freedom Highschool"?
 

Related to Finding Explosives with 8 Balls & 2 Weighings

1. How does the 8 balls and 2 weighings method work for finding explosives?

The 8 balls and 2 weighings method works by dividing the 8 balls into three groups of 3, 3, and 2. The first weighing is done with the groups of 3 balls on each side of a scale. If the scale tips, then the group with the heavier ball contains the explosive. If the scale does not tip, then the explosive is in the group of 2 balls. The second weighing is done with the group of 2 balls, and if the scale tips, then the heavier ball is the explosive. If the scale does not tip, then the remaining ball is the explosive.

2. Why is the 8 balls and 2 weighings method considered efficient for finding explosives?

The 8 balls and 2 weighings method is considered efficient because it uses a minimal number of weighings to determine the explosive out of 8 balls. This method has a success rate of 100% and is faster than traditional methods that require multiple weighings and comparisons.

3. What is the logic behind using 8 balls and 2 weighings to find explosives?

The logic behind using 8 balls and 2 weighings is based on the concept of binary search. By dividing the balls into groups and using the results of the first weighing to narrow down the possibilities, the second weighing can accurately identify the explosive in a maximum of two tries.

4. Can the 8 balls and 2 weighings method be used to find other objects besides explosives?

Yes, the 8 balls and 2 weighings method can be applied to find other objects that have a distinct weight or characteristic. This method is commonly used in fields such as quality control, medicine, and forensics to identify faulty or counterfeit items.

5. Are there any limitations to using the 8 balls and 2 weighings method for finding explosives?

One limitation of this method is that it requires a precise and sensitive scale to accurately measure weight differences. Additionally, if the explosive is not significantly heavier than the other balls, it may not be detected using this method. It also assumes that all the balls are of the same size and weight, which may not always be the case in real-world scenarios.

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