Why Can't You Simplify Natural Logs of Negative Numbers?

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I've got a simple question that's been bugging me for a while. I think I know where the problem is, I'd just like a formal mathematical reason why I can't say this:

\ln{(-1)}^2 = \ln(1) = 0

That part is fine...but then:

\ln{(-1)}^2 = 2 \ln(-1) = 2 (i \pi)

when they should obviously be equal.

It presumably displays the fact that you can't take the square and put it in front of the log as a "2" when you're dealing with logs of negative numbers. I'd like to know if there's any formal theory behind why this can't be done.

Thanks!
 
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What you're running into is the fact that \ln z is multi-valued. Define \ln z as the contour integral

\ln z = \int_{\gamma} \frac{d\zeta}{\zeta}

where \gamma is some contour running from 1 to z.

Now, note that for each time the contour \gamma winds around the origin in a positive sense, you get 2\pi i added to the integral (you can show this by the method of residues). Therefore, \ln z is multivalued:

\ln z = \ln_p z + 2n\pi i

where \ln_p z is the principle value, and n is any integer.
 
A simple way of seeing this is noting that exp(2n[pi]i)=1. Therefore ln(1)=2n[pi]i where n is any integer.
 
Ah great! That makes perfect sense.

So the natural log of 1 is, infact, multivalued if you allow a mapping to the complex plane?

Thanks for cleaning that up anyway Ben & mathman.
 
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