I've created some new formulas in trigonometry (perhaps)

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A user shares two new trigonometric formulas related to triangle geometry, specifically involving the area and circumradius. The first formula expresses the area of triangle ABC in terms of its circumradius and angles, while the second provides a relationship between the triangle's perimeter and its area. The user inquires if anyone is familiar with these formulas and discusses the derivation process, noting that they did not use Heron's formula. Other participants acknowledge the user's work and share their own methods for deriving similar results. The discussion highlights the collaborative nature of mathematical exploration and the excitement of discovering new relationships.
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Hi all,
I'm a newbie here and sorry for my bad English.
I want to share with you guys 2 formulas I've created luckily on a boring day:
1) Let R be circumscribed circle of triangle ABC, let S be it's area.
We have: S=2R^2*sinAsinBsinC
2)Let S be area of triangle ABC, a=BC, b=CA, c=AB.
We have:(a+b+c)^2 >= S*12*(3^0.5)
Did anyone know these before? If didn't, please reply to me.
 
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Have you used Heron's formula in deriving 2)?
 
Is this the way you brought that form up ?

S=\frac{1}{2}absinC

just multiply till we get S^3=\frac{1}{8}a^2b^2c^2sinAsinBsinC

finally use the relationship between R and a, sinA; b, sinB ; c and sinC, substitute them all in the above S to get that result...

if that's da way you did, you did made a success, you found it out before me...lol

Good luck on your next try..lol
 
Hello Vance,
You're a genius because you've found out a better way to get the result than I have. I brought that form up from:
S=abc/4R
and: S=0.5*absinC. It's so messy.
Thanks for your consideration.
 
Hello Arildno,
I didn't use Heron's formula in deriving 2).
Here is my solvation:
cotang(A/2) + cotang(B/2) + cotang(C/2) >= 3*cotang((A+B+C)/6)=3*3^(1/2)
and:
cotang(A/2) = cos(A/2) / sin(A/2). We multiply both numerator and denominator with 2cos(A/2). Simply numerator = 1+cosA, and denominator = sinA. Now we multiply both of them with bc --->numerator=bc+bccosA; denominator=bcsinA=2S.
Let's take care of the numerator. From cos theorem: a^2=b^2 + c^2 - 2bccosA ---->bccosA = (b^2 + c^2 - a^2)/2.
With all of this, we go to:
cotang(A/2) = ((b+c)^2 - a^2)/4S.
It's the same with cotang(B/2) and cotang(C/2).
 
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