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Should calculus be taught in high school? 
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#19
Jun809, 08:41 AM

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I think it should be offered as an elective to students who do give a damn. There are many who dont, honestly. And a lot have interest in other subjects.



#20
Jun809, 08:43 AM

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As i scientist i must say Calculus is fundamental and almost needed as breeze to breathe or as the food to live
the problem is those people involved in 'Social Science' , or take a career about Art, History, Filology,... so they will NEVER need it , or in case they need could be taught at University however the cultural impact of calculus is so high that any person considered 'intructed' or 'wise' should know 


#21
Jun809, 12:28 PM

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The problem is not availability; the problem is lack of interest. 


#22
Jun1809, 12:31 PM

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Personally, I don't think there is any way out of this "education gap" between the United States and the rest of the world.



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Also, if we were to start teaching math at the age of 8 then more of what the children learn will be hard wired in their brains. Things like manipulating algebraic expressons etc. will be as natural as speaking English. While if you learn these things at a later age, it is like learning to speak Chinese at a very late age. It is more difficult to get fluent at it. 


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#27
Jun2009, 10:23 PM

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Math is not emphasized enough at those levels. For heaven's sake kids don't fully understand how to add/subtract "unlike" fractions until the 6th grade...



#28
Jun2009, 10:45 PM

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We have an International called Kyle from North Carolina, he is probably the most advanced math student in our level, and hes an year younger than us. He learned math through calculus when he was in Elementary school. I think its the difference between private and public schools? 


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Jun2009, 10:59 PM

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No elementary school here teaches calculus. In fact, only a small number teaches algebra in 6th grade. Elementary, middle school, and high school education here in the U.S. is crap. And Count Iblis is right. Most kids don't have their "basic" maths straightened out until age 12, at the least. 


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Jun2009, 11:00 PM

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Plus, most private schools are worse because of lack of funding. Of course there are exceptions like the Philips Exeter Academy.
Most of the good high schools are public high schools. 


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Jun2109, 12:39 AM

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My personal opinion on math education in the US is that our problems stem from the antiintellectual culture that many youth get drawn into. The culture glorifies soldiers, musicians, actors, athletes, anything but scientists, who are derided as stuffy and useless. There isn't much emphasis on a work ethic, either. It's all about quick gratification. The result is, most students don't value math much, and if they do value it they are less inclined to work at it. The best students, who both value achievement and are willing to work, are ostracized as geeks. With that kind of peer pressure who would want to be smart?



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#33
Jun2109, 01:26 AM

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I believe that if reform is to be done to the curriculum it should start with the bottom (preschool  elementary education), working its way to the top (high school curriculum).



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Jun2109, 07:54 PM

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#35
Jun2109, 08:33 PM

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Which is pretty pathetic IMO. 


#36
Jun2109, 10:09 PM

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Maybe you could adopt the asian method and just make the students do more and hope it works. XD
The australian maths syllabus is a year behind malaysian and singaporean syllabi and their students are no more competent at what they learn either. The students in the asian countries do more questions a day and by the time they graduate from high school, they are expected to have done thousands of calculus questions. There's also the massive peer and parent pressure. They go for tuition classes and spend a lot of time just doing problems. We also learn so many different methods of doing things that it's quite shocking to find that the australian students only know a single method. I personally don't think much of mindlessly doing hundreds of questions. But if it works, it works. 


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