velocity of a satellite in an elliptical orbitby ehilge Tags: elliptical, orbit, satellite, velocity 

#1
Oct1209, 01:51 AM

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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
see attachment #12.106 2. Relevant equations V=R[tex]\sqrt{}(g/r)[/tex] (for a circular orbit) where R is the radius of the earth and r is the radius of the orbit from the center of the earth conservation of momentum for elliptical orbits: V_{a}r_{a}=V_{b}r_{b} 3. The attempt at a solution The first thing I did was find the velocity of the satellite while it is still in a circular orbit and came up with 1.46x10^{8} m/s. Now this is fine and dandy but I don't see where there is enough information to get the velocities in the elliptical orbit since the only equation I have for an elliptical orbit is listed above and I don't have V_{a} or V_{b}. I tried to pretend that the object also went into a circular orbit at B by another rocket boost. Hoping that I might be able to solve for something but to no avail. So I guess my question really is, what is another equation that also has V_{a} and V_{b} so I can solve simultaneously, or is there a way to eliminate one of the variables that I don't see? Thanks! 



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Oct1209, 10:24 AM

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You have V_{a} and r_{a}. What you need to find is r_{b}  the effective radius at the farthest point. Would that not just be the distance from the centre of the earth? Be careful about translating radius from altitude. AM 



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Oct1209, 10:32 AM

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Oct1209, 01:43 PM

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velocity of a satellite in an elliptical orbitAM 



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Oct1209, 01:44 PM

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Secondly, I do not have V_{a} of the object in the elliptical orbit, only in the original circular orbit. And I need to find the increase in speed the object makes at A while in a circular orbit to project it into an elliptical orbit. This is the part that I don't understand because I have two unknowns with the one equation. Thanks for your hep! 



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Oct1209, 01:54 PM

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Well there's always the conservation laws. You've already used conservation of angular momentum. What else is conserved in an orbit?
BTW, beware that the question used altitudes, not distances from the center of the Earth. You might find the latter to be a better choice. For example, in [itex]r_av_a = r_p v_p[/itex]. 



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Oct1309, 12:24 PM

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Oct1309, 03:08 PM

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I managed to find another equation that I can use
1/r_{apogee}+1/r_{perigee}=2GM/h^{2} = 2(gR^{2})/(r_{a}V_{a})^{2} = 2(gR^{2})/(r_{b}V_{b})^{2} I used this to find the velocity at A, and then calculated everything else from there using the previous equations. I suppose I could also have used conservation of energy though KE_{A} + GPE_{A} = KE_{B} + GPE_{B} .5mv_{A}^{2} + mgh_{a} = .5mv_{B}^{2} + mgh_{B} mass cancels out and I have another equation with v_{a} and v_{b} Thanks for your help! 



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Oct1309, 03:46 PM

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[tex]\Delta KE + \Delta PE = 0[/tex] [tex]1/2(mv_A^2  mv_B^2) + (GMm/r_A + GMm/r_B) = 0[/tex] [tex]v_A^2  v_B^2 = 2(GM/r_A  GM/r_B)[/tex] From the conservation of angular momentum: [tex]v_Ar_A = v_Br_B[/tex] so you can solve for v_{A} AM 


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