"Slumdog Millioraire" - How close is it to


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martharon
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Nov17-09, 03:20 AM
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Its very sad to admit that what has been shown in "Slumdog Millioraire" is true almost. there is still caste system in some parts even the schools and colleges are given admission based on the categories like oc, bc, mbc...
apart from this there are many amazing wonders in India.
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Nov17-09, 04:13 AM
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Quote Quote by martharon View Post
Its very sad to admit that what has been shown in "Slumdog Millioraire" is true almost. there is still caste system in some parts even the schools and colleges are given admission based on the categories like oc, bc, mbc...
apart from this there are many amazing wonders in India.
My opinion of slumdog millionaire was that though every individual part of the movie is in someway representative of life for someone in India the statistical likelihood of ALL that stuff happening to one person is absurd. It would be like a hollywood movie about a young black kid growing up in the ghetto who before the age of 12 fathered 3 children, had multiple drug addictions, AIDs, cancer was ostracized by his peers leading him to a school shooting where he got thrown into prison but found himself through the poetry of emerson and the lyrics of tupac and despite institutional racism and rose to become president. Sure, it COULD happen but really it's a medley of sensationalist Times magazine articles and stereotypes/cliches.
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Nov17-09, 05:49 AM
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Quote Quote by sganesh88
i wouldn't call 7 percent as "very common".
if every single noncaucasian person in the country (men, women, children, the already married, ect) married a white person all of the couples added up together would constitute less than half of the potential pairings in the country. so 7% is fairly significant i'd say.
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Nov17-09, 05:49 AM
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@sganesh
Keep denying the problem, keep yourself in denial mode.

If you cant see the problem, you cant solve it.
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Nov17-09, 05:50 AM
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Quote Quote by sganesh88 View Post
Reading a book makes Danny Boyle completely knowledgeable of the problems of India?
No: but it does relieve him of the responsibility to research them if he is merely adapting the book!

And, of course, none of this has anything to do with whether the movie was accurate or not: you are arguing around the issue.
And that book was also a fiction(named Q & A by Vikas Swarup) and not a commentary by some social researcher on these issues.
Yes. So what? That doesn't have anything to do with whether it is a generally accurate portrayal or not. You are the one trying to elevate the responsibility of the filmmakers here.
The problem is Danny was intent on showing *all* the problems within the two hours.. If you say it was completely coincidental rather than deliberate, then off i go!
There is no need for me to argue coincidental vs deliberate since you are arguing about something you could not possibly know: what was going on inside Danny's head!

Again, these are all just diversionary tactics. They don't have anything directly to do with whether the book and/or movie were accurate.
russ_watters
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Nov17-09, 05:52 AM
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My opinion of slumdog millionaire was that though every individual part of the movie is in someway representative of life for someone in India the statistical likelihood of ALL that stuff happening to one person is absurd.
That should be obvious - the kid is essentially winning the lottery based on that combination of unlikely life experiences. And the more specific you get, the closer to zero the probability of more than one person having your life experiences. Heck, the first one alone is an essentially unique expeirence!
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Nov17-09, 06:48 AM
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I've always been completely charmed by India, and I'd love so much to visit someday. I know it has problems (what place doesn't? there is no heaven on Earth), but although its problems may be uniquely bad, it is uniquely good in many other ways as well, I bet.

Someday I'll visit, if I'm lucky .
lisab, duriing your visit, you are invited to stay at my home:) My home state is said to be one of the most beautiful and unique. Do a google image search for kerala.
To give a heads up, - within India, Kerala has
the highest literacy,
lowest death rate,
lowest birth rate,
lowest corruption rate,
highest suicide rate,
highest alchohol consumption,
highest religious harmony
WiFO215
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Nov17-09, 09:08 AM
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To give a heads up, - within India, Kerala has
A COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT

Just kidding.
b.shahvir
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Nov17-09, 09:41 AM
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I'm from India (as most of my forum friends might be aware) and I'm not a Hindu by birth, although I follow Hindu philosophy for my spiritual upliftment. Actually I'm a Zoroastrian (follower of the prophet Zarathustra) and we do not have concept of casteism in my religion.

Nonetheless, I felt I should give my 2 cent worth.... The developed world is currently dabbling with issue of racism against ethnic asians, but I still believe this is natural human nature depicting survival of the fittest. At times it is evident that ethnic Asians (especially Indians) fail to come to turns with the western way of life and hence the issues.

However, at this point I must state that the developed world should not give in to ridiculous levels of political correctness just for the upliftment of minorities. Citizens of the developed world too have a right to status pride. Although all human beings are created equal, desparity in nature exists and cannot be avoided! Political correctness will lead to mockery of the developed world. Migrants cannot stake a claim on every land.

My sincere apologies if i've offended anyone, but these are purely my views.

Regards,
Shahvir
sganesh88
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Nov17-09, 09:54 AM
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Quote Quote by russ_watters View Post
You are the one trying to elevate the responsibility of the filmmakers here. There is no need for me to argue coincidental vs deliberate since you are arguing about something you could not possibly know: what was going on inside Danny's head!
He does have a responsibility considering the reach of Hollywood. This thread is itself an example.
They don't have anything directly to do with whether the book and/or movie were accurate.
It isn't about accuracy. Of course India has the problems portrayed. But showing them all in a single film is distasteful according to me. Maverick Strider explained it better.
sganesh88
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Nov17-09, 09:59 AM
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My sincere apologies if i've offended anyone, but these are purely my views.
I didn't quite understand what you're trying to say. Whats this "political correctness"?
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Nov17-09, 10:52 AM
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Quote Quote by sganesh88 View Post
He does have a responsibility considering the reach of Hollywood. This thread is itself an example.

It isn't about accuracy. Of course India has the problems portrayed. But showing them all in a single film is distasteful according to me. Maverick Strider explained it better.
I'm certain that the OP was questioning about the specific problems and whether they occured in India not if these same situations arise for every person who is born in India; that's stupid.

From that friend I spoke of earlier she said it is very true to real-life in India. Many of those situations happened directly to her family... Her mom spoke of the riots that occured between muslims/hindus (they are hindu). In the movie it was shown only from the slums but these riots definitely effected areas outside the slums.

I can speak from personal research I've done for photography class that the slums in the movie look quite real-to-life and the situation with drugs/prostitution etc. are all real problems in India.

Even that movie and the actor who Jamal goes to get the signature from are real... lol?

So the OPs question has been answered, yes India does have the problems from the movie.
How does this have anything to do with it being 'distasteful'? I thought that the movie was good. Please explain why you think that it is distasteful for all these problems to be portrayed in a single movie? Would you rather have them release a series? This movie costs what under $20 million? It grossed well over $350 million last I checked; something must've gone right.
b.shahvir
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Nov17-09, 10:56 AM
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Quote Quote by sganesh88 View Post
I didn't quite understand what you're trying to say. Whats this "political correctness"?
political correctness is something which the lawmakers of the developed world normally depict when they give certain incentyives or make policies keeping in mind upliftment of the minoroties...all that is OK but it shouldn't be to the extent of ridiculousness
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Quote Quote by b.shahvir View Post
political correctness is something which the lawmakers of the developed world normally depict when they give certain incentyives or make policies keeping in mind upliftment of the minoroties...all that is OK but it shouldn't be to the extent of ridiculousness
What exactly was the intent of this post... Are you a troll sir?
b.shahvir
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Nov17-09, 11:05 AM
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What exactly was the intent of this post... Are you a troll sir?
can u care to explain me the meaning of 'troll', sir? u see my english ain't that good! and watch what you say or u would be charged with racism (this is to some extent an example of political correctness) no hard feelings good friend
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Nov17-09, 11:19 AM
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can u care to explain me the meaning of 'troll', sir? u see my english ain't that good! and watch what you say or u would be charged with racism (this is to some extent an example of political correctness) no hard feelings good friend
The problem here is that you are hijacking the thread. This thread is about whether the film depicts a reasonable protrayal of India (inasmuch as any single film might).

However accurate your statements of racism and political correctness, they are not addressing that question. What they are doing is trying to create a straw man, an easier - and much more inflammatory - issue to attack than the one on the table. Whether you meant it to be or not, that is trollish behaviour.

Please stay on-topic or risk being reported.
b.shahvir
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Nov17-09, 11:25 AM
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Quote Quote by DaveC426913 View Post
The problem here is that you are hijacking the thread. This thread is about whether the film depicts a reasonable protrayal of India (inasmuch as any single film might).

However accurate your statements of racism and political correctness, they are not addressing that question. What they are doing is trying to create a straw man, an easier - and much more inflammatory - issue to attack than the one on the table. Whether you meant it to be or not, that is trollish behaviour.

Please stay on-topic or risk being reported.

I understand, my apologies!
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Nov17-09, 12:14 PM
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Quote Quote by anirudh215 View Post
The caste system is still very much prevelant in India. ...Partly it is the fault of the politicians who use the existing systems to stay in power.
A clever invention though:

Picture the scene about 200BC,, couple of Indians in a bar enjoying a Lhasi.
>Ashok - nice place we've got here but somethings missing
What?
>Well we really need somebody to discrimiate against
What?
>Well we need somebody to look down on - otherwise how do we know we are best.
What about brown people?
>Ashok - we are all the same color.
What about those people with their crazy gods
>Ashok - we are all hindus, we all have crazy gods
Well we could all gang up on one particular god
>Ashok - there are more gods than people, if we all pick one each and gang up on every body else it's not going to work. You invented maths you should know that - good work on inventing zero by the way.
Well we could invite the Jews to move in
>Ashok - don't be silly.
i've got it, we just split the whole population into groups and tell each group to hate the one below it.
>Good thinking, who does the picking?
Us of course
>Why us?
Because we are in the top group, we thought of the idea
>Will it work?
Well it will do until we event computers and then we can hate each other based on which operating system.


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