Solving for Distance: Finding Work from Mass, Incline & Spring

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 3kg mass on a frictionless incline that compresses a spring upon impact. Participants are exploring the relationship between forces, energy, and distance traveled by the mass before hitting the spring.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Energy conservation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the force exerted by the spring and expresses confusion about how to relate this to the distance traveled. Some participants suggest using energy conservation principles, while others clarify the use of energy equations involving potential and kinetic energy.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on how to apply energy conservation. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of energy equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the relationship between force in Newtons and energy in Joules, which may affect the understanding of the problem setup. The distinction between distance traveled and the height in the energy equations is also under discussion.

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there's a 3kg mass on a 30 degree frictionless incline. The mass travels d distance and hits a spring with k=400N/m. The spring contracts 0.2 m and brings the block to a stop.

I need to find the distance the block traveled.

F=kx
F=400*.2
F=80N

so the block has to hit with 80N.
what formula would I use to get distance? I am confused because if I used any energy formula (which I know I will have to) the question is in Joules instead of Newtons. What should I do?
 
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You can solve this with energy.
At any point on the block's path you can find its energy with the equation
[tex]E = .5kx^2 + .5mv^2 + mgy[/tex]

Consider when the spring has been fully compressed to be y=0. Can you do it from there? Note: y does not equal d.
 
are you saying that:
E=80N+.5mv^2 ?
 
Heres the easiest way to solve the problem:
We know the spring compressed .2 meters. How much energy did the block impart to the spring to do this? We can find out using the potential energy of a spring formula [tex]E = .5kx^2[/tex] Under the conservation of energy, the potential energy of the block at the top of the ramp must be equal to the PE of the spring. Use [tex]E = mgy[/tex] to find y and then use trigonometry to find the hypotonuese of the triangle.
Remember : the key to sucsess in physics is thinking; not memorizing how to do every possible problem.
 

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