Is the Electromagnetic Spectrum non-continuous?

In summary, the conversation discusses the limited number of energy levels for electrons in atoms and the resulting limited number of photon wavelengths that can be emitted. There is a debate on whether the electromagnetic spectrum is continuous or discontinuous, with different methods of describing the EM field leading to different conclusions. The conversation also mentions factors that can affect the emission of EM waves, such as atom-atom interactions and the Doppler effect. Some participants suggest that our current model of light may not be the most accurate.
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Eriance
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From what I've learned in physics, electrons falling from higher energy levels to a lower energy level emits an photon equal to that of the difference in energy between the two levels. Each atom has a set number of energy levels for the electrons, and thus each element can only emit a set number of photon wavelengths.

Given there are limited numbers of elements, and a limited number of energy levels for each electron, does that mean the number of wavelengths for photons is limited also? Meaning, there isn't a continuous spectrum for EM radiation, rather quantized wavelengths, while some wavelengths don't exist? (i.e. say if no electron in any element have levels have the energy correlated to a photon of 345 nm, then such a photon doesn't exist in nature).

Or am I misinterpreting something?
 
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Transitions between atomic energy levels are not the only way to generate EM radiation.
 
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Is the Electromagnetic Spectrum non-continuous?

It depends on how you describe the EM field. If you expand it in Fourier series, only components with certain preferred wave vectors ##\mathbf k## are used. The spectrum as a function of frequency will then be discrete and look like comb, hence it will be discontinuous.

On the other hand, if you decide to describe the field by the Fourier integral, it may happen that the Fourier transform is continuous (but it is not necessary). The spectrum then may be continuous.

Both descriptions are sometimes possible for the same field, which seems to imply that the distinction is in the description, not the actual state of the field.
 
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When Plank was trying to explain the origin of the black body radiation was using oscillators as sources of EM radiation. What he found was that he had to the amount of oscillators in volume of space was limited. He had to assume that spectral density of the sources of EM radiation (oscillators) was not continuous. What that meas is that you cannot fit a continuous number of oscillators in a volume of space, they must be quantified. That doesn't means that the EM spectrum is discontonous
 
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Eriance said:
Given there are limited numbers of elements, and a limited number of energy levels for each electron, does that mean the number of wavelengths for photons is limited also?
Don't forget also that what you said there is only valid for an isolated atom. In a gas, you have to take into account atom-atom interactions, which will shift the position of the levels. There is also the Doppler effect. And molecules do not have the same spectrum as their constituant atoms. And we're not even talking here about solids...
 
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I agree with DrClaude, (Doppler shift part specifically). Let's take the highest known energy photon with frequency f, now as the universe expands and the rate accelerates the frequency will slowly decrease. Hence a single photon can exhibit infinite energies as it morphs with time.
This assumes that time is also continuous.

...However our model of light may not be the best one yet!
 
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Ah ok. Thank you all for the explanation.
 
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Very good observation Eriance! Another way to creat EM waves is through a spark, which can produce all of them provided the spark had enough energy.

However if you take planks constant, you will see that it the EM field is not continuous and goes up by small steps known as "planks constant".
 

1. What is the Electromagnetic Spectrum?

The Electromagnetic Spectrum is the range of all possible frequencies of electromagnetic radiation, from radio waves with the longest wavelengths to gamma rays with the shortest wavelengths.

2. Is the Electromagnetic Spectrum continuous?

No, the Electromagnetic Spectrum is not continuous. It is made up of discrete bands or ranges of frequencies, with distinct boundaries between each band.

3. Why is the Electromagnetic Spectrum non-continuous?

The Electromagnetic Spectrum is non-continuous because different forms of electromagnetic radiation have different energy levels and therefore require different frequencies to be emitted or absorbed. This creates distinct bands of frequencies within the overall spectrum.

4. How many bands are there in the Electromagnetic Spectrum?

There are seven main bands in the Electromagnetic Spectrum: radio waves, microwaves, infrared, visible light, ultraviolet, x-rays, and gamma rays. Each band represents a different range of frequencies and energy levels.

5. Can we see the entire Electromagnetic Spectrum?

No, we cannot see the entire Electromagnetic Spectrum with our eyes. We can only see a small portion of it, known as visible light, which ranges from red to violet. Other forms of electromagnetic radiation, such as radio waves and x-rays, are invisible to the human eye.

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