Understanding Waves Dispersion: A, B, & C

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The discussion revolves around understanding complex wave equations and their implications in wave mechanics. Key points include the confusion over the resultant motion of a string given a transverse displacement and how the envelope speed is derived from the difference in frequencies. Additionally, the relationship between group velocity and phase velocity is questioned, particularly how constants in the dispersion relation affect these velocities. The dependence of wave number on frequency in a beaded string system is also explored, emphasizing the need to relate k to frequency through specific equations. Overall, the conversation highlights the challenges in grasping advanced wave concepts and the importance of clear explanations in educational materials.
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Hi I'm studying for a test, and in the suggested reading book review has a few equations that they talk about but I'm not don't really understand how it jumps from one thing to another? the book is very vauge... I've broken the parts i don't understand into A,B,C (I used w = omega)

A)IT shows a graph, explain that the end of a string is given a transverse displacement phi=cosw1t+cosw2t where the two frequencies are almost equal and w1>w2 the resultant motion is a traveling wave of angular frequency (w1+w2)/2, modulated by n envelope which is a traveling wave of (w1-w2)/2 There the speed of this envelop is (w1-w2)/(k1-k2) ...? I don't understand how they got that?

B) A system with dipersion relation w=ak^r...a and r are constants because v(sub g)=xv(sub phi) at all wave frequencies. i duno where then got the other variables v(sub g)? i know that v(sub phi) =c(1+ak^2)^1/2 but i don't understand how they relate?

C) a beaded string above cut off, the dependence of k on frequency is given by w=w(sub c) cosh1/2ka showing a graph, How does k depend on the frequency? i know a beaded string can exhibit high freq cut off and that the part od the system vibrates in anti phase with each other...and k=(pi/a)-ik where k can be found as a function by replacing k=pi/a in w/w(sub c)= sin (1/2 Ka-i1/2ka) but I'm not sure how?
 
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These problems are about group velocity v_g = {\rm d}\omega/{\rm d}k. You need to write the superposition as a product of average and beat frequency, using those relations there are for sin a + sin b.

Here is some help, with a nice simulation:
http://webphysics.davidson.edu/faculty/dmb/bernstein/qmwave/section2b.html
 
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