Andromeda vs Milky Way dust emissions

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The discussion centers on the implications of the Planck XXV release, which mapped dust emissions in Andromeda, for the BICEP 2 findings on primordial gravity waves. There is skepticism regarding the relevance of the Andromeda data to the BICEP 2 controversy, particularly concerning the handling of foreground B-modes. Participants express disappointment that the Planck XXV paper did not address its potential impact on BICEP 2's dust modeling. The need for further verification or a comprehensive reanalysis is emphasized as crucial for resolving the ongoing debate. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of gravitational wave detection and the challenges posed by dust emissions in cosmological observations.
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As many are aware, the announced detection of primordial gravity waves by BICEP 2 was heavily criticized based on dust emission modeling. Today, Planck XXV was released which mapped out the dust emissions of Andromeda. Assuming Andromeda is representative of the Milky Way in most relevant ways, the obvious question is does Planck XXV affirm, cast further doubt upon, or is irrelevant to BICEP 2 dust modeling? I was perhaps naively disappointed this was never mentioned in the paper. The paper of interest is http://arxiv.org/abs/1407.5452,
 
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Chronos said:
As many are aware, the announced detection of primordial gravity waves by BICEP 2 was heavily criticized based on dust emission modeling. Today, Planck XXV was released which mapped out the dust emissions of Andromeda. Assuming Andromeda is representative of the Milky Way in most relevant ways, the obvious question is does Planck XXV affirm, cast further doubt upon, or is irrelevant to BICEP 2 dust modeling? I was perhaps naively disappointed this was never mentioned in the paper. The paper of interest is http://arxiv.org/abs/1407.5452,

Seems like the paper would be mostly irrelevant; considering the controversy was about the BICEP teams handing of foreground B-modes and the data (or lack thereof) they used. Using Andromeda's data set to calculate foreground tensor perturbations might not be any better than the incomplete set they used I would assume. Full Planck results come out in October right? Only a second verification by another group, or an in-depth reanalysis with a full data set would squash this discussion one way or another.

What if it all turns out to be an E-mode coupling issue. :-p

Anyway, GR still confuses the hell out of me, mostly.
 
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