Derivatives of ln of summation

In summary, the conversation discusses two issues related to summations and calculus. The first issue involves finding the derivative of ln(Z), where Z is the summation of exponential functions over a variable s. The result is the average value of E when the probability of E(si) is equal to exp(-B*E(si)). The second issue is about finding the derivative of exp(-E/kT) with respect to temperature. The conversation also mentions the use of Boltzmann statistics in thermal physics.
  • #1
mmwave
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Summations and calculus gives me fits so please verify my results on these 2 issues:

1. Z = summation ( exp ( - B*E(s)) ) where the sum is over s

d/dB of ln(Z) = d/dB (ln (exp(-BEo) + exp(-BE1) + ... exp(-BEn))
= (exp(-BEo) + exp(-BE1) + ... exp(-BEn))^-1 +
(-E0*exp(-BEo) + -E1*exp(-BE1) + ... -En*exp(-BEn))

= summation ( E(s) * exp(-B*E(s)) / summation ( exp(-B*E(s))

which is also the average value of E when Prob(E(si)) = exp(-BE(si))

2. does d/dT of exp( -E/kT) = -E/k * exp(-E/kT) * -(1/T^2) =
E/k* 1/T^2 * exp(-E/kT) ?


If you're curious, these come up in Boltzmann statistics in thermal physics.
 
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  • #2
Looks fine to me.
 
  • #3
Hi, where did the last term come from in 2nd question?
Also i want to ask what is d/d(ni)[summation(ni*ln(ni))]? i:from 1 to r.
ni is n sub indice i
 

1. What is the derivative of ln(x+y)?

The derivative of ln(x+y) is 1/(x+y).

2. How do you find the derivative of ln(u+v)?

To find the derivative of ln(u+v), use the chain rule and the derivative of ln(x+y). The derivative is (1/(u+v)) * (du/dx + dv/dx).

3. Is the derivative of ln(x+y) equal to 1/(x+y) or ln(x+y)?

The derivative of ln(x+y) is not equal to ln(x+y). It is equal to 1/(x+y).

4. Can the derivative of ln(x+y) be simplified further?

No, the derivative of ln(x+y) cannot be simplified further. It is already in its simplest form, 1/(x+y).

5. How do you take the derivative of ln of a summation with more than two terms?

To find the derivative of ln of a summation with more than two terms, use the chain rule and the derivative of ln(x+y). The derivative will be a combination of the derivatives of each individual term in the summation.

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