What is Horizon: Definition and 446 Discussions

The horizon is the apparent line that separates earth from sky, the line that divides all viewing directions based on whether it intersects the Earth's surface or not.
The true horizon is actually a theoretical line, which can only be observed when it lies on the sea surface. At many locations, this line is obscured by land, trees, buildings, mountains, etc., and the resulting intersection of earth and sky is called the visible horizon. When looking at a sea from a shore, the part of the sea closest to the horizon is called the offing.The true horizon surrounds the observer and it is typically assumed to be a circle, drawn on the surface of a perfectly spherical model of the Earth. Its center is below the observer and below sea level. Its distance from the observer varies from day to day due to atmospheric refraction, which is greatly affected by weather conditions. Also, the higher the observer's eyes are from sea level, the farther away the horizon is from the observer. For instance, in standard atmospheric conditions, for an observer with eye level above sea level by 1.70 metres (5 ft 7 in), the horizon is at a distance of about 5 kilometres (3.1 mi).
When observed from very high standpoints, such as a space station, the horizon is much farther away and it encompasses a much larger area of Earth's surface. In this case, the horizon would no longer be a perfect circle, not even a plane curve such as an ellipse, especially when the observer is above the equator, as the Earth's surface can be better modeled as an ellipsoid than as a sphere.

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  1. K

    B Black Holes: Questions on Event Horizon Observer

    I have a doubt about black holes. (I'm sorrying for my poor English.): 1 - Does an observer outside a black hole see forever (i.e. his lifetime) a object stationary when it reaches the event horizon? 2 - Or photons emitted by the object have its wavelength so red-shifted that the observer...
  2. ShayanJ

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    One way that people introduce the Hawking temperature of an event horizon, is by taking the near-horizon limit of the BH metric and then do a Wick rotation of the time coordinate. Then, the regularity of the metric requires that the Euclidean time to be periodic. But how can this give us the...
  3. Petr Matas

    I Does time dilation prevent event horizon formation?

    I read that time dilation near a black hole's event horizon causes the infalling matter to "freeze" just above the event horizon and never cross it (in a distant observer's frame of reference). Doesn't the same phenomenon prevent the event horizon and singularity from being formed in the first...
  4. T

    I Rod falling through the event horizon of a black hole

    Having discussed recently https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/rod-falling-radially-towards-the-center-of-a-mass.871169/ I'm now puzzled by the question, what happens to the rod during his radial fall through the event horizon and what would the hypothetical observer at ##r=2M## measure...
  5. R

    BBC Horizon S55E13: Sean Carroll at His Best

    On this forum sometimes people moan about badly presented or just plain wrong media output about science. They should, though I thought this one was OK. http://www.watchseriesgo.to/link/vidto.me/6951511 If th link doesn't work anymore then it's BBC Horizon S55E13, Also Sean Carroll here at...
  6. Stephanus

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  7. J

    B Is the Cosmic Horizon the Key to Understanding Holographic Reality?

    I have a question about the cosmic horizon. If theoretically I go out 20 billion light years to the cosmic horizon as there a point in space where there is a huge build up of light where space is moving away at exactly the speed of light? Is this this the 2d representation of reality they talk...
  8. newjerseyrunner

    B Combine a horizon line with expansion

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  9. J

    Understanding the 5km Horizon: How Far Can We See at the Beach?

    i recently learned that according to maths, the horizon for a human is about 5klms, and if this human was 100meters tall, horizon would be 40 klm away. in that case, if we are standing at the beach, how can we see a boat (or flat land) that is more than 40 klms away?
  10. A

    I Can the Size of the Event Horizon change faster than c?

    Basically, if the size of the event horizon(EH) of a black hole is R (radius) can the rate of change of this R or dR/dt be faster than the speed of light(c)? When it comes to expansion of an EH of a black hole: Does the event horizon immediately expand? For example, if one black hole consumes...
  11. Philosophaie

    I The declination at the horizon in the east at a latitude

    I am trying to find the declination at the horizon in the east at a particular latitude. The equation is: delta = asin(sin(lat)*sin(Alt) - cos(lat)*cos(Alt)*cos(Azi)) where Azi is the azimuth and is equal to 90 degrees in the eastern most direction. Alt is the Altitude and is equal to 0...
  12. L

    I How can the integral be rewritten using a change of variables?

    Here http://www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/db275/Cosmology/Lectures.pdf, I find on page 31 in (2.1.5) I assume that it is childish calculus that connects both sides of this equation. But still, can someone help me why the integral can be rewritten like that? thanks!
  13. GeorgeDishman

    I Reheating and the horizon problem - chicken and egg?

    One of the benefits of inflation often mentioned in beginner treatments is that it solves the horizon problem by taking a volume which was in thermal equilibrium and expanding it so much that it is now larger than the observable universe thus explaining how the CMB temperature is so uniform...
  14. G

    I Alice Sees Sudden Acceleration at Event Horizon

    Scenario 1: Alice drops into the event horizon at free fall and notices nothing as she crosses it. Bob looks on from the outside and sees her flattened against the event horizon. Scenario 2: Alice drops into the event horizon from the outside and notices nothing. But as she nears it, she...
  15. K

    A Can an event horizon telescope observe quantum gravity effects

    its commonly stated that no particle accelerator will ever be built that can probe the Planck scale. what about an can an event horizon telescope observe quantum gravity effects near a black hole, such as Sagittarius A* do the various candidates of QG such as string theory LQG asf gravity...
  16. F

    I Difference between hubble sphere,particle horizon and event

    Based on my understanding, Hubble sphere is the region that contains GALAXIES receding subluminally while GALAXIES outside are receding superluminally (obviously on the border, GALAXIES recede at the speed of light). Particle horizon is the limit of what we have seen so far since the (big...
  17. strangerep

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  18. .Scott

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  19. Vidar Martinsen

    I Looking out from a event horizon

    Lets look at the known story of Alice and Bob outside a Black hole. Alice are falling inn to the hole, and Bob are outside. What would Alice observe from the event horizon of a Black hole. Looking outward. We know Bob who is outside, se Allices clock standing still, but Allices clock are not...
  20. C

    B Why r=0 is inevitable when crossing horizon?

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  21. Elnur Hajiyev

    A Are Killing Horizon and Stationary Limit Surface the same?

    I know that Killing horizon is the hypersurface on which timelike Killing vector field becomes null. Beyond that surface Killing vector field becomes spacelike. But Stationary Limit Surface has also such a property. I wonder, if they are the same thing, if so, why is there different names for...
  22. W

    I Horizon Riddle (Infinite Horizon Problem)

    I'm reading Cosmology by Harrison and in Chapter 21 he discussed the horizon riddle, I understood the problem that he posed but his solution was confusing. "Consider two widely separated observers, A (for Albert) and B (for Bertha). We suppose they can see each other. Each has a horizon such...
  23. G

    B Strange Phenomena when the Sun is low on the horizon?

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  24. T

    I Event Horizon of Telescope Through Earth: Does It Exist?

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  25. nomadreid

    I 2 particles created around event horizon: out or inside?

    The question is simple, and I have checked the "similar discussions" and googled, but I still come out with various replies. I also know that experimental evidence that could back up the selected choice would be tricky, not to say impossible. But at least according to theory: the entangled...
  26. G

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  27. hideelo

    I Confusion about killing horizon in Carroll

    In the opening paragraph of section 6.3 Carroll defines a killing horizon to be a null hypersurface Σ where some killing vector field χμ becomes null. Later (on page 247 if you have the book) when distinguishing between static and stationary space times, he says that in a stationary, but not...
  28. Jonathan Scott

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  29. nomadreid

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  30. Chris11235

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  31. L

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  32. SlowThinker

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  33. Italian_Mike

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  34. A

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  35. G

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  36. P

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  37. P

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  38. newjerseyrunner

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  39. jedishrfu

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  40. sevenperforce

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  41. B

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  42. Ellie Snyder

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  43. J

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  44. N

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  45. Smattering

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  46. J

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  47. A

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  48. P

    Observing the event horizon of a black hole

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  49. slatts

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  50. avito009

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    When I observe the sunset from my balcony, the sun appears far away near the horizon. But when I watch sunset at a beach the sun appears closer to me at the horizon. Why so?
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