What is Uncertainties: Definition and 167 Discussions

In metrology, measurement uncertainty is the expression of the statistical dispersion of the values attributed to a measured quantity. All measurements are subject to uncertainty and a measurement result is complete only when it is accompanied by a statement of the associated uncertainty, such as the standard deviation. By international agreement, this uncertainty has a probabilistic basis and reflects incomplete knowledge of the quantity value. It is a non-negative parameter.The measurement uncertainty is often taken as the standard deviation of a state-of-knowledge probability distribution over the possible values that could be attributed to a measured quantity. Relative uncertainty is the measurement uncertainty relative to the magnitude of a particular single choice for the value for the measured quantity, when this choice is nonzero. This particular single choice is usually called the measured value, which may be optimal in some well-defined sense (e.g., a mean, median, or mode). Thus, the relative measurement uncertainty is the measurement uncertainty divided by the absolute value of the measured value, when the measured value is not zero.

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    Uncertainties associated with the use of opacity meters (smoke meters)

    Please, I need practical instruction/calculation to find the uncertainty associated with the use of opacity meters (smoke meters). I cannot even start to calculate; I cannot find anything on this topic. Thx a lot.
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    Resistors in Series Calculations including Uncertainties

    Hey, this is my first post ever on PF, and I have done my best to follow the guidelines on posts asking for help with homework. Please know that I am not after the answer just to cheat and get the questions right, I am after the method so that I could do a similar question myself in the future...
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    Calculating Uncertainty in Angular Resolution: A Guide for Scientists

    Hey, I'm being asked to find the experimental limit of angular resolution. The equation is as follows: theta = d / D where d = 0.75 \pm 0.003 mm and, D = 10.3 \pm 0.2 m The angular limit of resolution will be given in radians. How do I work out the resultant uncertainty?
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    Angular Momentum, calculating uncertainties

    Any help would be great! I'm just starting off with Quantum and am having trouble with this problem. Homework Statement Angular momentum eigenstates |l,m> satisfy the equality in the Heisenberg uncertainty relationship. Calculate the uncertainties of Delta Lz and Delta Ly in an...
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    Uncertainties in my Experiment

    I am finished collecting data for my experiment and now I am processing it. I have a graph of temperature against time from which I will determine, after processing, whether or not rate of cooling is proportional to the (excess temperature)5/4 I've produced my tables, calculated uncertainties...
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    How Should Uncertainties Be Calculated When Multiplying Values Near Zero?

    Homework Statement Dear All, Suppose I had to values: A (±a) and B (±b) where A not equal to a and B not equal to b. I have to find the product of A and B taking into consideration uncertainties. Homework Equations A (±a) * B (±b) = C (±c) where c = (a/A+b/B) The Attempt at a...
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    Doubts on Measuring Efficiency of Pulley Experiment

    I am processing the data in my pulley experiment and I have a doubt. I am measuring the efficiency, thus, I measured the work I inputed in the system. For when the mass being lifted by me was moved by 0.05m, I exerted a 1.4 N force and I had to exert that force for 0.275, 0.28, 0.285. (Those...
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    Uncertainties question (Kelvins and Celsius)

    Turns out there is a problem with the question. Thanks though.
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    Interpreting Uncertainties

    Hi, This problem has been bugging me for while. I hope someone can explain it. 1) If I measure something with a digital device and I know that the reading is correct, my only uncertainty is the limited significant figures displayed by the device. So if it read 24.6 the actual value...
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    Using Min and Max slope method to determine uncertainties

    Homework Statement The graph below shows the potential (V) applied to, and the current I(mA) drawn by, an electrical circuit. Use the max and min slope method to determine the: a) equation of line of best fit of the graph below (answer must be and equation relating to V and I). Your answers...
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    Control Systems: Uncertainties w/ State feedback & Observer controller

    Homework Statement Consider the continuous time state space model governed by: A = [-1 0;1 0] B = [1; 0] C = [1 -1] D = 0 a) suppose we are using the following state feedback and observer gains K = [k1 k2] L = [l1;l2] find the loop gain symbolically using MATLAB (aka find...
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    Calculating Uncertainties with linear combinations

    Homework Statement I am having trouble determining the error for a set of linear equations that represent a simple circuit with two voltage sources. I have found two possible uncertainties by solving using substitution, detailed below. The circuit is shown below...
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    Energy versus uncertainties in position & momentum

    Homework Statement Is it true that if a particle has lower energy than another particle, then it also has smaller uncertainties in momentum and position? Homework Equations Uncertainty principle The Attempt at a Solution If you consider the Bohr model, lower energy states mean...
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    What is the difference between matched and unmatched uncertainties?

    I'm beginning to study control theory, and I keep reading about matched and unmatched uncertainties in the literature, but I have yet to find the definitions of matched and unmatched. Could someone explain it to me? Thanks.
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    The treatment of errors and uncertainties?

    I am confused over how to work with errors and uncertainties. So far when dealing with a small number of measurements I have used the partial derivative method to calculate the final error in my result e.g. if my result is E=mgh \text{ then assuming no error in g my uncertainty is }...
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    Calculating Uncertainties Question

    Homework Statement Find the number of moles: v = 10.00 +/- 0.03 cm3 c = 1.00 mol dm-3 Homework Equations n = cv The Attempt at a Solution When you are converted cm3 to dm3, do you need to also convert the uncertainty? When you finding n, and you are not given an uncertainty for...
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    What Justifies Using a Single SD for All Measurements in a Dataset?

    Hi Ok, we all know that if a quantity T is measured N times, then all measurements have the same standard deviation (SD). Now, with this assumption one can derive the width of the average to get SD/sqrt(N). I have often encountered a dataset D, where each measurement has been assigned no...
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    Handling Random Uncertainties: Best Practices for Niles

    Hi In http://sl-proj-bi-specification.web.cern.ch/sl-proj-bi-specification/Activities/Glossary/techglos.pdf it says that: ... if the sources of uncertainties are numerous, the Gaussian distribution is generally a good approximation. I don't quite understand why. The Central Limit Theorem (CLT)...
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    How should I calculate uncertainties?

    Homework Statement I'm writing up a prac, which involves calculating the uncertainty for 1/(xy)^0.5. There are two formulas that I think apply: Homework Equations For R = xy, u(R)/R = u(x)/x + u(y)/y and using differentials in calculus dR = (dR/dx)dx + (dR/dy)dy [note...
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    Internal resistance, emf UNCERTAINTIES

    Homework Statement "From your graph, calculate the EMF and internal resistance of your cells. Include uncertainties in your calculations" Now I know how to work out the emf and int. resistance, but I am just not sure about how to incorporate uncertainties. Homework Equations y = mx +...
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    Exploring Black Hole Physics: Questions & Uncertainties

    Hello, I am a newbie to these forums, so please be patient with me! OK, my first (but not only) problem is getting to understand Black Hole physics... I understand they (BHs) arise as solutions to the EFE's, and there are currently many efforts to tie in Quantum Theory in a consistent way which...
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    Solve % Error in Specific Heat Capacity: Eh = mcΔT

    I have this question for homework and I'm well stuck! The specific heat capacity of a liquid was found by heating a measures quantity of the liquid for a certain length of time. The following results were obtained. Power of heater: ( 50.0 ± 0.5)W Mass of liquid: (200 ± 10)g Time of heating...
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    Uncertainty Help: Working Out Approx % Error in Specific Heat Capacity

    I have this question for homework and I'm well stuck! The specific heat capacity of a liquid was found by heating a measures quantity of the liquid for a certain length of time. The following results were obtained. Power of heater: ( 50.0 ± 0.5)W Mass of liquid: (200 ± 10)g Time of...
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    Add, subtract, multiply and divide uncertainties in measurement.

    Can someone show me how to add, subtract, multiply and divide uncertainties in measurement.
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    Uncertainties in the momentum and kinetic energy of the proton?

    Homework Statement A proton in a tin nucleus is known to lie within a sphere whose diameter is about 2.2 multiplied by 10E-14 m. What are the uncertainties in the momentum and kinetic energy of the proton? Homework Equations delta(x)*delta(p) >= hbar delta(E)*delta(t) >= hbar The...
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    QM uncertainties / probabilities and light

    Greetings, In trying to even ask this question it’s obvious I don’t understand enough about the topic of QM and light. Here is my attempt at my question: If I shine a laser beam at a target or sensor – the electronics every time detects the beam. How do the Schrodinger wave equation...
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    Relationship between uncertainties

    Homework Statement Determine the relationship between ^m/m and ^g/g from the relationship, m= 4pi^2/g ^= uncertainty Homework Equations m= 4pi^2/gThe Attempt at a Solution ^m/m = 4^g/g?
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    Understanding Uncertainty in Fitted Models: A Scientist's Guide

    Hey :-) I want to establish the uncertainty in my fitted model to my data I can evaluate the variance for the predicted model, but I'm getting very confused as to how the variance can then give me the uncertainty in my model :S I know that the standard error of the mean may be taken as the...
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    Fractional uncertainty and propagation of uncertainties

    erm, ok let's say i have a value, with uncertainty, like y = 10 ± 3 so let's say i multiply y by 2, then it becomes 20 but does the uncertainty becomes 3 x 2 = 6? , hence y = 20±6 ? what about divide? does it becomes 1.5? i roughly understand fractional uncertainty and propagation...
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    Finding Uncertainty in Calculating Density p

    Homework Statement Calculate the density p and its uncertainty \Deltap showing all working Mass M (kg) 0.0163 \Delta{M} (kg) ? Diameter D (m) 0.014 \Delta{D} (m) ? Homework Equations \rho=MV p= \frac{6M}{\Pi{D}^3} Z=\frac{A^2B}{3C^{0.5}}...
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    Question about uncertainties in slopes of cars

    Hi, I don´t know how this standard type uncertainty calculation can be solved. The situation is as follows: on a graph are three curves with different values, their slope is the speed of each car. The uncertainty of the y-axis (time) is 5%. Now the problem is that i want to display the values...
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    Math with experimental uncertainties

    Why is it that if you have two data points a \pm b and c \pm d whose uncertainties are symmetrically distributed, the sum of the points is a+c \pm \sqrt{b^2+d^2} Can someone please help me with this derivation. Also, another separate question, suppose I have many uncertain data...
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    Physics Lab Uncertainties: Natural Log Method

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    When working out the Uncertainties, what to do with the constants?

    Q=mcT, variables with uncertainties are m and T. If it were only Q=mT, the %uncertainty of Q would be %uncertainty of m + % uncertainty of T. But c=constant (no uncertainties), so what is the uncertainty of Q when Q=mcT? Do you just multiply the constant to the %uncertainties of m and T...
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    How To Propogate Uncertainties (Angle of Incidence and Angle of Reflection)

    Hello fellow physicists :) I have recently done an experiment and am trying to propagate the uncertainty. Unfortuantely, I haven't done that in years, and need to remember how its done. For example: When theta= 20 (+-2) I want to find sin20 and the uncertainty: sin20=0.34 (+-?) How can I...
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    Question about uncertainties

    Homework Statement A glider moves on a level (horizontal) air track. The motion detector records five velocities of the glider: 0.48 m/s, 0.48 m/s, 0.53 m/s, 0.48 m/s, 0.47 m/s. The average velocity, uncertainty in the velocity, and relative uncertainty are Homework Equations Avg...
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    Improving Error Analysis Techniques for Physics Students

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    Mass uncertainties and the calculation of accretion disks

    I'm currently writing an extended essay about black holes in binary systems and accretion disks, and I wonder how I should proceed when calculating the size of the accretion disk. Take, for instance, the binary system A 0620-00 where the mass of the black hole is said to be 5-10 solar masses...
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    Combining Uncertainties - Mean

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    Fractional uncertainties (Data analysis)

    I've been trying to determine the Boltzmann constant by observation of Brownian motion. I undertook four experiments and hence got four different estimated values for kB. To analyse the data, I estimated the mean value and the standard deviation. This is maybe not the best way to analyze the...
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    Calculating uncertainties, using calculus. What do these letters represent?

    Calculating uncertainties, using calculus. What do these letters represent?? Homework Statement I think I've forgotten some basic calculus. Please help, this is reeally easy and quick answer for someone who know this, but its taking me forever to figure out. I attached document that I am...
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    Questions with uncertainties for lab reports

    Homework Statement I am unsure how to do uncertainties for my lab experiment. For example, we are suppose to estimate or guess the uncertainty for like the time and measurements.. Is there any general rule for proper guessing? Then I am unsure on what to do with the uncertainties in math...
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    Dealing with uncertainties

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    Uncorrelated uncertainties for W with x=4.2(0.2) and y=0.7(0.1)

    1. Homework Statement For uncorrelated uncertainties LaTeX Code: \\delta x and LaTeX Code: \\delta y give the values and uncertainties for W in standard format. A.) W=x+y with x=4.2(0.2) and y=0.7(0.1) 2. Homework Equations [b]3. The Attempt at a Solution well i think i am...
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    What is the method for calculating W with uncorrelated uncertainties?

    Homework Statement For uncorrelated uncertainties \delta x and \delta y give the values and uncertainties for W in standard format. A.) W=x+y with x=4.2(0.2) and y=0.7(0.1) Homework Equations [b]3. The Attempt at a Solution well i think i am supposed to take the partial...
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    Determining g with a Compound Pendulum: Issues with Uncertainties

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    Probability and uncertainties

    Homework Statement Hi all. Lets say i have some data points (x, y) (we will call these data 'D'). There is no uncertainty in x, and the uncertainty in y is 1. I believe t hat x and y are connected as y = ax2, and I want to find the probability of a having a certain value given the data...
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    Propogation of Uncertainties

    Homework Statement 1. A cylindrical can with radius of 3.1 +/- 0.4 cm and height 4.5 +/- 0.5 cm. What is the uncertainty in volume in cm cubed? 2. If theta= 0.40 +/- 0.02 radians, what is the uncertainty of y = tan (theta)? Homework Equations Volume of cylinder = Pie * r^2 * h...
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    Uncertainties and conversions

    Here's my value: length: 8.25 +/- 0.05cm If I convert 8.25 to m how to I .. convert my uncertainty?
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