A question about the significance of 3

In summary, the conversation discussed the significance of the number 3 in physics, specifically in relation to the 3 large dimensions, 3 generations of quarks, and 3 generations of leptons. The conversation also mentioned other examples of sets of 3 in physics, but it was noted that this topic falls into numerology and is not a productive discussion. The conversation was ultimately locked due to lack of focus and relevance.
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Tanelorn said:
A very quick question about the significance of 3:
So we have 3 large dimensions.
And we have 3 generations of quarks.
And we have 3 generations of Leptons.

Is there any known significance or reason or connection to the number 3?
Are there any other examples of sets of 3 in Physics?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model_(mathematical_formulation)#/media/File:Standard_Model_of_Elementary_Particles.svg
A very quick answer about the significance of ##2##:
We have a quadratic electromagnetic force which is all around.
Newtons quadratic gravitation is a pretty good model for everyday experiences.
The normal distribution that is applicable almost everywhere in nature goes with ##e^{-t^2}##.
Our entire logic (true / false), ethics (good / bad), spirituality (ying / yang), most of biological processes (reproduction, cell division), computer arithmetic (0 / 1) and so on are all based on two.
Our functions which we use to describe the universe are subsets of a product space ##X \times Y##.
There is matter and antimatter, spin up and down, Pauli's exclusion principle - all ##2##.

Summary: You could do this for a lot of numbers: ##0\; , \;1\; , \;\pi\; , \;e ## or whatever. This doesn't carry any insights and IMO is pure esoteric. You mentioned the standard model, but it's fundamental group so far is ##U(1) \times SU(2) \times SU(3)##, so it's ##(1,2,3)## or ##(1,3,8)## depending on how you want to look at it. To pick the three from it is a bit randomly.
 
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Don't forget the all important number 42 .
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Arghhh here comes Numerology again.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
Arghhh here comes Numerology again.
Exactly. @Tanelorn, you're pissing up a rope on this one.
 
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phinds said:
@Tanelorn, you're pissing up a rope on this one.
That mixes at least two separate metaphors!
 
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marcusl said:
That mixes at least two separate metaphors!
I don't think so. It's an old military saying. Maybe if it had been 3 ropes :smile:
 
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Tanelorn said:
And we have 3 generations of quarks.
And we have 3 generations of Leptons.
Whereas looking at another arbitrary number 3 is numerology, it is significant that these two numbers are the same (not 3 necessarily) for anomaly cancellation in QFT so I would even say that the OP is just a list of two numbers (not three) that happen to be the same.
 
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phinds said:
It's an old military saying.
That doesn't invalidate my observation...
 
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marcusl said:
That doesn't invalidate my observation...
I still disagree. Explain yourself, please.
 
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Ok :oldsmile:
Just because you heard it in the military doesn't mean that someone (in the military) didn't combine pissing into the wind with pushing on a rope.
 
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marcusl said:
Ok :oldsmile:
Just because you heard it in the military doesn't mean that someone (in the military) didn't combine pissing into the wind with pushing on a rope.
Sounds like you are missing the point completely. This has nothing to do with pushing. Think what happens if you stand under a rope and piss up it.
 
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Ok, we've gotten off topic here. (We won't discuss your ability to stand and piss upwards onto a rope above you :eek:))
 
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Although it does seem like the most useful part of the thread
 
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Tanelorn said:
Are there any other examples of sets of 3 in Physics?

This is so broad that it falls into numerology. If you have a specific question about the relationship between a certain number and a specific concept in physics then feel free to ask, but please try to keep the focus narrow if you want to attract high quality answers.

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What is the significance of the number 3 in science?

The number 3 is significant in science because it is a prime number, meaning it can only be divided by itself and 1. This makes it a fundamental building block for many mathematical and scientific principles.

Can you give an example of how the number 3 is used in science?

One example of how the number 3 is used in science is in the Three Laws of Motion, developed by Sir Isaac Newton. These laws explain the relationship between an object's motion and the forces acting upon it, and are fundamental to understanding the behavior of objects in the natural world.

Why is the number 3 often used in scientific studies and experiments?

The number 3 is often used in scientific studies and experiments because it allows for repetition and validation of results. By conducting an experiment three times, scientists can increase the reliability of their findings and reduce the likelihood of chance or error affecting the results.

Is there any cultural or historical significance to the number 3 in science?

Yes, the number 3 has been considered a significant number in many cultures and religions throughout history. In science, it is often associated with balance and symmetry, as well as being a symbol of completeness and the Trinity in Christianity.

Are there any famous scientific discoveries or theories involving the number 3?

One famous scientific discovery involving the number 3 is the discovery of DNA's double helix structure by James Watson, Francis Crick, and Rosalind Franklin. This discovery revolutionized the field of genetics and has had a significant impact on numerous scientific advancements since its discovery in 1953.

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