Advanced Arithmetic: Find Min Digits for Fraction Decimal

In summary, advanced arithmetic involves finding the minimum number of digits for a fraction in its decimal form. This process involves understanding the relationship between fractions and decimals and using division and multiplication to convert between the two forms. By finding the minimum number of digits, we can accurately represent fractions as decimals and perform operations on them with precision. This skill is important in various fields, such as finance and science, where precise calculations are necessary.
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Homework Statement


What is the minimum number of digits to the right of the decimal point needed to express the fraction
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as a decimal?
a) 4
b) 22
c) 26
d) 30
e) 104

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


One possible solution is: "We can rewrite the fraction as
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. Since the last digit of the numerator is odd, a
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is added to the right if the numerator is divided by [PLAIN]https://latex.artofproblemsolving.com/4/1/c/41c544263a265ff15498ee45f7392c5f86c6d151.png, and this will continuously happen because [PLAIN]https://latex.artofproblemsolving.com/7/9/0/79069377f91364c2f87a64e5f9f562a091c8a6c1.png, itself, is odd. Indeed, this happens twenty-two times since we divide by https://latex.artofproblemsolving.com/4/1/c/41c544263a265ff15498ee45f7392c5f86c6d151.png twenty-two times, so we will need
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more digits. Hence, the answer is [PLAIN]https://latex.artofproblemsolving.com/8/9/7/897cab64b41a26c4bf59f579a975ec600cf2441b.png."

So I understand how they rewrote the fraction, however I'm totally lost by everything after that. I'm not exactly sure why a 5 is added to the right if the numerator is divided by 2 and how that has anything to do with the last digit being odd. Also, a calculator is not allowed on this. If someone could either clarify the explanation given or give a more simplified alternate solution, that would be appreciated.
 
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I think it is a bit more clear if you do the division by 104 at the end.

123456789=123456788 + 1. Divide it by 2 : it becomes an integer + 0.5 that means one decimal.
Divide that number by 2 gain, you get an integer, + 0.25, so you have two decimals. Do again: it is something + 0.125. Repeat: the number of decimals increases by one at every division by 2. The first term becomes odd after some divisions, but that will have less decimals than the division of 1.
So how many decimals are there if you divide by 222 (that is, you do 22 divisions) ?
 
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ehild said:
I think it is a bit more clear if you do the division by 104 at the end.

123456789=123456788 + 1. Divide it by 2 : it becomes an integer + 0.5 that means one decimal.
Divide that number by 2 gain, you get an integer, + 0.25, so you have two decimals. Do again: it is something + 0.125. Repeat: the number of decimals increases by one at every division by 2. The first term becomes odd after some divisions, but that will have less decimals than the division of 1.
So how many decimals are there if you divide by 222 (that is, you do 22 divisions) ?
Okay I'm kind of making sense out of it. If you divide 1 by 222 then you will have 22 decimals, and then if you divide 123456788 by 104 then you will have 4 decimals, and 22 + 4 = 26, I don't know though something about that process seems off, I feel like you can't just separate them like that, can you?
 
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Is 123456789 = 123456788 +1?
Is (a+b)/2 = a/2 + b/2 true?
try with a smaller number : How many decimals are there in 9/23?
 
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ehild said:
Is 123456789 = 123456788 +1?
Is (a+b)/2 = a/2 + b/2 true?
Yes, but I would have 123456788/(222 * 104) + 1/(222 * 104)
and if I ONLY divided 123456788 by 104, then where did the 222 in the denominator go
and if I ONLY divided 1 by 222, then where did the 104 in the denominator go, do you see what I mean?
 
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Michele Nunes said:
Yes, but I would have 123456788/(222 * 104) + 1/(222 * 104)
and if I ONLY divided 123456788 by 104, then where did the 222 in the denominator go
and if I ONLY divided 1 by 222, then where did the 104 in the denominator go, do you see what I mean?
##\frac {A}{b c}= \frac {A/b}{c} ##. If you have a product of two numbers in the denominator, you can divide by one number, then you divide the result by the other.
Here, you divide by 222 first, then you divide the result by 104.
If you evaluate ##\frac{36}{3*4}## you can do it by dividing 36 with 12 or first dividing 36 by 3 (you get 12) then dividing 12 by 4 - the result is 3 with both methods.
 
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Do you understand it now?
 
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ehild said:
Do you understand it now?
Yes for the most part, thank you!
 

1. What is advanced arithmetic?

Advanced arithmetic is a branch of mathematics that deals with complex calculations and operations involving numbers. It goes beyond basic arithmetic, which includes addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, and includes topics such as fractions, decimals, exponents, and logarithms.

2. What is the purpose of finding the minimum digits for a fraction decimal?

The purpose of finding the minimum digits for a fraction decimal is to accurately represent a number with a decimal point. This is important in calculations where precision is required, such as in scientific research or engineering.

3. How do you find the minimum digits for a fraction decimal?

To find the minimum digits for a fraction decimal, you need to first convert the fraction into a decimal. Then, count the number of digits after the decimal point. The minimum digits will be equivalent to the number of digits after the decimal point.

4. Why is it important to find the minimum digits for a fraction decimal?

It is important to find the minimum digits for a fraction decimal because it allows for accurate representation of a number. In situations where precision is crucial, such as in scientific or financial calculations, having the correct number of digits after the decimal point is essential.

5. Can the minimum digits for a fraction decimal ever change?

Yes, the minimum digits for a fraction decimal can change depending on the number being represented. For example, a fraction with a larger denominator will have a longer decimal representation, thus requiring more digits after the decimal point. Similarly, if the fraction is converted into a decimal with a repeating pattern, the minimum digits needed will be infinite.

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