Ambiguity of electrostatic polarization?

In summary, the conversation discusses the ambiguity surrounding the concept of polarization, particularly in the example of Alice and the definition of polarization in a dielectric material. While the Wikipedia page may have some unclear statements, the concept of polarization as a vector quantity and its dependence on reference frame is a valid and important aspect to consider. The proposed definition of polarization as an average of dipole moments within an averaging volume is a clear and unambiguous definition commonly used in the scientific community.
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Jano L.
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Hello everybody,

I have a doubt about the section of the Wikipedia page on the polarization:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_density

especially the section in the end where the writer claims the polarization is ambiguous.

In the example about Alice, the writer states that the pairing of +/- particles is ambiguous and hence the polarization is ambiguous. I think he incorrectly interprets the meaning of the polarization.

The writer even states that Alice can back up her strange pairing procedure by ascribing the crystal surface a non-zero density of (free!) charge. This is ridiculous. The crystal is a dielectric and there is no free charge. All polarization comes from displacements of the bound charges. There will be only bound surface charge.

I think the proper way to define the polarization of the crystal at [itex]\mathbf x [/itex] is to average the dipole moments of the smallest neutral cells k hitting the averaging volume V, which is centred at [itex]\mathbf x[/itex]. The polarization is then

[tex]
\mathbf P(\mathbf x) = \frac{1}{V} \sum_k \mathbf \mu_k
[/tex]


What do you think - is not this unambiguous definition?
 
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Thank you for bringing up this topic. As a scientist studying polarization, I can offer some clarification on this issue. The Wikipedia page on polarization density is correct in stating that polarization is ambiguous in certain cases. This is because polarization is a vector quantity and can have different directions depending on the chosen reference frame. In the example of Alice, the writer is trying to highlight the fact that the choice of reference frame can affect the perceived polarization of the crystal.

However, I do agree with you that the statement about Alice ascribing a non-zero density of free charge to the crystal is incorrect. As you mentioned, the polarization in a dielectric material comes from the displacement of bound charges and there is no free charge present.

Your proposed definition of polarization, as an average of dipole moments within an averaging volume, is a valid and unambiguous definition. This is commonly used in the study of polarization in materials and is in line with the general understanding of polarization in the scientific community.

In conclusion, while the Wikipedia page may have some ambiguous statements, the concept of polarization as a vector quantity and its dependence on reference frame is a valid and important aspect to consider. Thank you for bringing this up and for offering a clear and precise definition of polarization.
 

What is electrostatic polarization?

Electrostatic polarization is the process by which the charges in a neutral object are rearranged due to the presence of an external electric field. This results in a separation of charges, with the positive charges being attracted towards the negative end of the electric field and vice versa.

Why is electrostatic polarization important?

Electrostatic polarization plays a crucial role in many physical and chemical processes, such as the formation of ionic bonds, the behavior of dielectric materials, and the functioning of electronic devices. It also helps explain the behavior of molecules and atoms in the presence of an electric field.

What causes ambiguity in electrostatic polarization?

The ambiguity in electrostatic polarization arises due to the fact that the separation of charges can occur in two ways - through displacement of charges within molecules or through the orientation of polar molecules in an external electric field. This makes it difficult to distinguish between the two mechanisms in some cases.

How can we determine the mechanism of electrostatic polarization?

One way to determine the mechanism of electrostatic polarization is through experimental techniques such as dielectric spectroscopy and infrared spectroscopy, which can provide information about the orientation and movement of molecules in an electric field. Theoretical calculations and simulations can also be used to study the behavior of polar molecules in an electric field.

What are the practical applications of understanding electrostatic polarization?

Understanding electrostatic polarization has many practical applications in areas such as material science, nanotechnology, and biophysics. It can help in the design of new materials and devices with desired electrical properties, as well as in the study of biological processes and interactions involving polar molecules.

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