Ambiguous Problem Statement on Determining Speed of Aircraft

In summary: Since complaints about textbooks produce no useful relief for the complainer, we develop coping strategies. Strategies that may be useful in the real world where the problems with problems get much worse.
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Homework Statement
An aircraft is flying at a height of 3400 m above the ground. If the angle subtended at a ground observation point by the aircraft positions 10.0 s apart is
30 degrees. What is the speed of the aircraft?
Relevant Equations
s=vt, where s is the distance travelled at a speed of v in time t
When I attempted this problem, I came up with two different solutions and answers, and both seem correct to me. However, the answer obtained by the first method is correct according to the book.

The methods I used are as in screenshots below.

Isn't the problem statement ambiguous, or maybe I am missing something?

In diagrams below, point ##G## is the observation point on the ground, ##P_1## is the initial observed position of the aircraft and ##P_2## is the final observed position of the aircraft.

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The relative position of the observer isn't given, so you're right. Note that there's more possibiliites, if you don't assume the aircraft's path is directly overhead the observer.
 
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hmmm27 said:
The relative position of the observer isn't given, so you're right. Note that there's more possibiliites, if you don't assume the aircraft's path is directly overhead the observer.
By more possibilites, you mean the situation where the vertical line from ##G## going up does not intersect the line ##P_1P_2##, but intersects the extended line from ##P_1P_2##.
 
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vcsharp2003 said:
By more possibilites, you mean the situation where the vertical line from ##G## going up does not intersect the line ##P_1P_2##, but it intersects the extended line from ##P_1P_2##.
As well as the two most reasonable possibilities - the observer's position being directly under the aircraft's path at either the start(/finish) or midpoint of the observation - it could well be 100 miles away.
 
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hmmm27 said:
As well as the two most reasonable possibilities - the observer's position being directly under the aircraft's path at either the start(/finish) or midpoint of the observation - it could well be 100 miles away.
I am curious whether there is a Physics book for high school students that is known for having an accurate list of questions/problems, and not ambiguous questions/problems. Maybe there is no such book in the whole world.

Ambiguous questions/problems discourages a student from studying Physics.
 
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If there was, we wouldn't hear about it o0)
 
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hmmm27 said:
If there was, we wouldn't hear about it o0)
It's sad that no one in this world can come up with an accurate list of questions/problems in high school Physics.
 
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vcsharp2003 said:
By more possibilites, you mean the situation where the vertical line from ##G## going up does not intersect the line ##P_1P_2##, but intersects the extended line from ##P_1P_2##.
Indeed. In addition, the problem does not state the vertical intersects the pathline of the aircraft.
 
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256bits said:
Indeed. In addition, the problem does not state the vertical intersects the pathline of the aircraft.
Or even that the craft is flying in a straight line.
 
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vcsharp2003 said:
It's sad that no one in this world can come up with an accurate list of questions/problems in high school Physics.
But not surprising. Unambiguous problems are a dime a dozen. There are lots of them. We tend not to notice them. It is the ambiguous or otherwise bad ones that you remember and complain about.

Since complaints about textbooks produce no useful relief for the complainer, we develop coping strategies. Strategies that may be useful in the real world where the problems with problems get much worse. [In the real world, they don't give you the information you need. The information they do give you may be incorrect. The problem they give you may not be the problem you need to solve. And a solution may not even exist].
 
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1. What is the purpose of determining the speed of an aircraft?

The purpose of determining the speed of an aircraft is to accurately measure the velocity at which it is traveling. This information is important for various reasons, such as ensuring safe flight operations, calculating fuel consumption, and estimating arrival times.

2. How is the speed of an aircraft typically measured?

The speed of an aircraft is typically measured using instruments on board the aircraft, such as airspeed indicators, ground speed indicators, and GPS. These instruments use various methods, such as measuring air pressure or satellite signals, to calculate the speed of the aircraft.

3. What challenges may arise when trying to determine the speed of an aircraft?

There are several challenges that may arise when trying to determine the speed of an aircraft. These include changes in wind direction and speed, turbulence, and variations in air density. Additionally, instrument malfunctions or errors can also affect the accuracy of speed measurements.

4. How can the speed of an aircraft be affected by external factors?

The speed of an aircraft can be affected by external factors, such as wind, air temperature, and air density. Wind can either increase or decrease the speed of an aircraft, depending on its direction and strength. Changes in air temperature and density can also impact the speed of an aircraft, as they affect the air pressure and resistance the aircraft encounters.

5. Why is it important to have a clear problem statement when determining the speed of an aircraft?

A clear problem statement is important when determining the speed of an aircraft because it helps to define the specific goals and parameters of the problem. This can help guide the research and experimentation process, and ensure that the results are relevant and accurate. Without a clear problem statement, it can be difficult to determine the appropriate methods and tools to use for measuring the speed of the aircraft.

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