Arc length parametrisation question (error in notes?)

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of s as a parameter representing both time and length in a curve. The integrand ||y'(s)|| may seem confusing as y is a function of time, not length. However, s is defined as the arc length and represents the length of the curve traversed at a given time. The concept of time is not directly applicable here, as t is just another parameter.
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This is from my course notes

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In line 3, there's the integral [tex]\int_0^t ||y'(s)||ds[/tex] which represents the length of the curve as a function of t (which I am thinking of as time). Here, I think s is a dummy variable for time.

The equation in line 4, however, says that s is an element of [0, |C|] which seems to imply that s iis a length. Here, it makes sense, because [itex]\sigma[/itex] maps time to length, and so [itex]\sigma^{-1}[/itex] maps length back to time, which goes into the function y and y(t) is spit out (the position vector function of the curve.

But back to the integrand, ||y'(s)|| where the variable s is a length makes no sense to me because y is meant to be function of time, not length. Is there something I'm misunderstanding here?

Thanks
 
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t is the label on the x-axis; s is the arc length. The definitions used here have s=0 when t=0, and that s=|C| when t=1.
 
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Isn't t a time parameter which is not represented on the coordinate axes?
 
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- if you integrate the speed vector of a parameterized curve whose derivative is never zero( which guarantees that the curve can not back up on itself) the the integral equals the length of the curve.

- y is just the position in Euclidean space of the curve. It can be a function of many different parameters. s is the parameter whose value equals the length of the curve that has been traversed up to that point.

- There is no real concept of time here as in physics. t is just a parameter. s is another parameter.
 

1. What is arc length parametrisation?

Arc length parametrisation is a method used to represent a curve or path in a two-dimensional space using a single parameter. This parameter represents the distance along the curve from a chosen starting point. It is often used in mathematics and physics to simplify calculations involving curves.

2. How is arc length parametrisation different from other parametrisation methods?

Arc length parametrisation differs from other methods, such as Cartesian or polar parametrisation, in that it uses the actual length of the curve as the parameter instead of an arbitrary variable. This allows for more accurate and efficient calculations.

3. What is the purpose of using arc length parametrisation?

The main purpose of using arc length parametrisation is to simplify mathematical calculations involving curves. It also allows for a more intuitive understanding of the curve's behavior, as the parameter directly represents the distance along the curve.

4. Is there a formula for calculating arc length parametrisation?

Yes, the formula for arc length parametrisation is s = ∫ √(1 + (dy/dx)^2) dx, where s represents the arc length and dy/dx is the derivative of the curve's y-coordinate with respect to its x-coordinate. This integral can be evaluated using various techniques, such as substitution or integration by parts.

5. What are some potential errors that may occur in arc length parametrisation?

One potential error in arc length parametrisation is the improper choice of the starting point. This can result in negative values for the parameter, which may cause confusion or inaccuracies in calculations. Additionally, if the curve has sharp turns or discontinuities, the integral may not be easily evaluated, leading to errors in the parametrisation.

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