Balancing Weight on an 8m Pole: Find the Solution

In summary, the man and boy are holding a horizontal 8m long pole with a mass of 200 kg tied to it. The man must support four times the weight of the boy, meaning the weight must be tied at a distance of 5d-8 meters from the man, where d is the distance from the man to the weight. This can be determined by setting the net torque to 0 and solving for d.
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A man and a boy hold opposite ends of 8m long pole which is horizontal. A mass of 200 kg is tied to the pole. If the man is to support four times as much weight as the boy where along the pole must the weight be tied?
Can someone please help
 
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Hint: Make a sketch.

Put the man on the left and the boy on the right. Let the mass hang a distance d from the man. Then the mass is a distance 8 - d from the boy. Call the force the boy exerts F. Then the man exerts 4F. The pole does not rotate so the net torque on it is 0 Nm. Pick an axis, say at the man and call a clockwise rotation positive. Then the net torque is
0 = d(4F) - (8 - d)F. Now pick an axis at the mass and see if you can find F.

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
Hint: Make a sketch.

Put the man on the left and the boy on the right. Let the mass hang a distance d from the man. Then the mass is a distance 8 - d from the boy. Call the force the boy exerts F. Then the man exerts 4F. The pole does not rotate so the net torque on it is 0 Nm. Pick an axis, say at the man and call a clockwise rotation positive. Then the net torque is
0 = d(4F) - (8 - d)F. Now pick an axis at the mass and see if you can find F.

-Dan
Thank you so so much!
 
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You CAN'T "find F" because F cancels out of that equation.

0= d(4F)- (8- d)F. Dividing by F

0= 4d- (8- d)= 4d- 8+ d= 5d- 8

and you can easily solve for d, not F.

Don't forget that the answer must be given as a distance from a specific person and must be stated in meters.
 

1. How do you determine the weight needed to balance an 8m pole?

In order to determine the weight needed to balance an 8m pole, you will need to use the equation for torque: torque = force x distance. The weight needed will depend on the distance of the weight from the fulcrum and the weight of the pole itself.

2. What is the best way to position the weight on the pole for optimal balance?

The best way to position the weight on the pole for optimal balance is to place it at a distance that is equal to half of the length of the pole. This will create a balanced system, with the weight on one side and the pole on the other.

3. Can the weight be placed at any point on the pole for it to be balanced?

No, the weight cannot be placed at any point on the pole for it to be balanced. The weight must be placed at a specific distance from the fulcrum in order to create a balanced system. This distance can be calculated using the equation for torque.

4. Is there a limit to the weight that can be placed on the pole?

Yes, there is a limit to the weight that can be placed on the pole. The weight must be less than or equal to the weight of the pole itself in order for it to be balanced. If the weight is greater than the weight of the pole, it will cause the pole to tip over.

5. Can this method be used to balance other objects besides an 8m pole?

Yes, this method can be used to balance other objects besides an 8m pole. The equation for torque can be applied to any object that is being balanced on a fulcrum. The key is to find the correct distance for the weight to be placed in order to create a balanced system.

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