Black Hole Entropy/Temperature

In summary, the discovery that black holes can have entropy and temperature was significant because it confirmed that they can be described as closed systems with individual particles and momenta. Prior to this discovery, it was postulated that perhaps black holes did not have these properties. Additionally, systems in their ground state have zero entropy, and more accessible references on the topic can be found in textbooks and other learning materials.
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Islam Hassan
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In thermodynamics, I assume that any closed system that can be described in terms of individual objects/particles and their associated individual momenta has both entropy and temperature. A priori a black hole seems to me to fit that description of a closed system.

Why was it significant then, to have discovered that black holes can have entropy and temperature? Why, prior to this discovery, did we postulate that perhaps they didn't?


IH
 
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In thermodynamics, I assume that any closed system that can be described in terms of individual objects/particles and their associated individual momenta has both entropy and temperature.
It can have a different temperature at different locations, or the entropy could be zero.
 
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mfb said:
It can have a different temperature at different locations, or the entropy could be zero.

Ok, it seems I have a fundamental misunderstanding of what entropy is and is not; the wiki articles are relatively formula-heavy on this matter, would you have a more accessible reference on the matter, and especially on systems that exhibit zero entropy?


IH
 
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onestly, the discovery that black holes can have entropy and temperature was significant because it challenged our understanding of thermodynamics and the laws of physics. Prior to this discovery, black holes were thought to be empty voids with only mass and gravitational pull. This led scientists to believe that they did not have any thermodynamic properties, such as entropy and temperature.

However, the discovery of black hole entropy and temperature showed that these objects are not just empty voids, but rather complex systems with a high degree of disorder and energy. This challenged our previous understanding and forced us to rethink our theories and models of thermodynamics.

Furthermore, the discovery of black hole entropy and temperature also had implications for our understanding of the nature of space and time. It showed that black holes are not isolated from the rest of the universe, but rather are connected to it through the concept of entropy. This has opened up new avenues for research and furthered our understanding of the universe as a whole.

Overall, the significance of discovering black hole entropy and temperature lies in the fact that it has expanded our understanding of the laws of physics and the nature of the universe. It has also challenged our previous assumptions and pushed us to think outside the box in order to better understand these mysterious objects.
 

Related to Black Hole Entropy/Temperature

1. What is black hole entropy?

Black hole entropy is the measure of disorder or randomness associated with a black hole. It is a physical property that is related to the number of microstates (or possible configurations) of a black hole.

2. How is black hole entropy calculated?

The formula for calculating black hole entropy is given by the famous Bekenstein-Hawking formula: S = kB * A/4, where S is the entropy, kB is the Boltzmann constant and A is the surface area of the event horizon of the black hole.

3. What is the relationship between black hole entropy and temperature?

According to the laws of thermodynamics, an increase in entropy is accompanied by an increase in temperature. This means that as the entropy of a black hole increases, its temperature also increases.

4. How does black hole entropy relate to the information paradox?

The information paradox is the theoretical conundrum that arises when considering the fate of information that falls into a black hole. Black hole entropy plays a crucial role in this paradox as it suggests that the information is lost forever, leading to a violation of the law of conservation of information.

5. Can black holes lose entropy?

According to the second law of thermodynamics, the entropy of a closed system can never decrease. This means that black holes cannot lose entropy, and it will only continue to increase as they consume matter and energy from their surroundings.

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