Calculate momentum, kinetic energy, speed etc. for a decay

In summary, Isabelle calculates the following:- The momentum of the muon is 179.53 MeV/c.- The momentum of the neutrino is pνμ2 = Eνμ2 - mνμ2 = Eνμ2.- The mass of the kaon is the sum of Eμ+ and Eνμ.- The only formula she knows to calculate the energy in a decay like this requires the mass of the kaon.
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Ofinns
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Homework Statement



I have the decay

K+ → μ+ + νμ

Calculate:
1. Momentum of μ+
2. Total energy of νμ
3. Mass of K+
4. Speed of μ+
5. Speed of νμ

Homework Equations



The only thing we get are the kinetic energy of μ+ so Kμ+ = 152.53 MeV
and the mass of mμ+ = 105.658 MeV/c2

The Attempt at a Solution



1. As I only have the kinetic energy for the kaon and mass of the muon I thought that I could use the relation between momentum and kinetic energy: K = p2 / 2m ⇒ p = (2mK)1/2 ≈ 179.53 MeV/c ??

Problem is that the teacher did not provide any anwsers even though these questions are just excercises.

2. The momentum for the neutrino is pνμ2 = Eνμ2 - mνμ2 = Eνμ2 as the neutrino are massless. But the only way I know how to calculate the energy is to know the mass of the kaon. Or to use something similar as in 1. but if so I would need the kinetic energy of the neutrino.

3. The mass of K+ should equal the sum of Eμ+ and Eνμ. But as stated above the only formula I know of how to calculate the energy in a decay like this require the mass of the kaon so yeah.

4. I assume I can use p = γmv where γ = 1 if v << c and if the answer is too close to c I use the relativisic formula instead..?
5. Same, but if this is the case I need to also calculate the momentum of the neutrino.

I know I haven't come very far in my calculations, but as the teacher do not provide any answers it gets even harder. And I have been going through our course material, but there is no example like this so some tips would be great :)Best regards
Isabelle
 
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  • #2
1. You'll have to use relativistic formulas here. The nonrelativistic formulas don't work if the kinetic energy is similar to the rest energy.
2. Neutrinos are not massless, but their mass is negligible here. Assuming the kaon was initially at rest you do not need the mass of the kaon, you can use conservation of momentum.
4. v<<c is not a valid approximation here.
 
  • #3
mfb said:
1. You'll have to use relativistic formulas here. The nonrelativistic formulas don't work if the kinetic energy is similar to the rest energy.
2. Neutrinos are not massless, but their mass is negligible here. Assuming the kaon was initially at rest you do not need the mass of the kaon, you can use conservation of momentum.
4. v<<c is not a valid approximation here.

Um, could you by any chance elaborate a bit on this?
 
  • #5
Did a misstake writing it.
 
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Can you draw an energy-momentum diagram representing the conservation of 4-momentum in the "collision"?
 
  • #7
Ofinns said:
But can I use this formula for calculating the momenta for μ+?
Sure. You know the mass and the kinetic energy of the muon, and you have a formula relating energy, mass and momentum. Other particles are irrelevant for the muon momentum.
Ofinns said:
2. So conservation of the momentum is PK+ = pμ+ + pνμ But I'm not sure how to proceed from there.
The kaon starts at rest, and you know the muon momentum. That allows to find the neutrino momentum.

4. and 5. So I should use p = mv/√(1-β2) where β = v/c instead?
For the muon: yes. For the neutrino there is an easier approach if you neglect its mass. What is the speed of a massless particle?
 
  • #8
mfb said:
Which part is unclear?

Well everything if I'm going to be honest. But okey..

1. Relativistic formulas:
E2 = p2c2 + m2c4
E2 - p2 = m2

The difinition of of kinetic energy is the total energy E minus the rest energy, giving us this:

Ek = √(p2c2+m2c4) - mc2

Where the mass and kinetic energy are for the μ+. But can I use this formula for calculating the momenta for μ+? I don't need to consider the neutrino?

2. So conservation of the momentum is PK+ = pμ+ + pνμ But I'm not sure how to proceed from there.

4. and 5. So I should use p = mv/√(1-β2) where β = v/c instead?
 
  • #9
Thank you for all your help.

Well.. a massless particle should have the speed of light of course. - . -

You don't have any idea how to calculate the mass for K+ ?
 
  • #10
Ofinns said:
Well.. a massless particle should have the speed of light of course. - . -
Right.
Ofinns said:
You don't have any idea how to calculate the mass for K+ ?
Think about the total energy.
 
  • #11
Since your given values have such high precision,
are you sure that the given kinetic energy Kμ+ = 152.53 MeV is correct?

Assuming a massless neutrino and the accepted value of the muon mass (mμ+ = 105.658 MeV/c^2, which you gave)
[and that I calculated correctly, with electronic help],
I get a K+ mass of 493.767 MeV/c^2, which differs from the accepted value of the kaon mass( mK+ = 493.667 MeV/c^2).
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=105.658*exp(arccosh(+152.53/105.658+1))

If I work backwards from the accepted masses, I get that the kinetic energy should have been 154.482...
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=105.658*(cosh(ln(493.667/105.658))-1)

These formulas come from drawing an energy-momentum diagram of the process, and recognizing that
with a massless neutrino, the diagram looks like the spacetime diagram of the doppler effect, and thus can be solved almost immediately by analogy. (The ratio of the rest masses is the doppler factor.)
 

What is momentum and how is it calculated?

Momentum is a measure of an object's motion and is calculated by multiplying its mass by its velocity. The formula for momentum is p = m * v, where p is momentum, m is mass, and v is velocity.

What is kinetic energy and how is it calculated?

Kinetic energy is the energy an object possesses due to its motion. It is calculated by using the formula KE = 1/2 * m * v^2, where KE is kinetic energy, m is mass, and v is velocity.

How do you calculate speed using momentum and kinetic energy?

To calculate speed, you can use the formula v = p/m, where v is speed, p is momentum, and m is mass. You can also use the formula v = √(2 * KE/m), where v is speed, KE is kinetic energy, and m is mass.

What is the relationship between kinetic energy and speed?

There is a direct relationship between kinetic energy and speed. As speed increases, kinetic energy also increases. This is because kinetic energy is directly proportional to the square of an object's speed.

How can you use these calculations in the context of a decay process?

In a decay process, momentum and kinetic energy can be used to determine the speed of the particles involved. The mass and velocity of the particles can be measured to calculate their momentum and kinetic energy. This information can then be used to understand the behavior and movement of the particles during the decay process.

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