Calculate persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule

In summary, the problem is that the slope of the fitted straight line is too low and the y-intercept is too high. Apparently, different force ranges were tried but that didn't work. The equation for the linear fit is given in the attachment to the thread "Calculate persistence length from force extension data of a single DNA".
  • #1
pen
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Hello!

1. The problem statement and all variables

AIM: Calculating persistence length [itex]P[/itex] of a single dsDNA molecule from a data set of force [itex]F[/itex] (to the molecule) vs. extension [itex]x[/itex] measurements. Experimental background: pN forces were applied to a single dsDNA molecule spanned between two μm-beads using an optical tweezer.

PROBLEM: When I calculate [itex]P[/itex], I get values of about 2.9 nm, which is far below the expected value for [itex]P[/itex] of dsDNA, which is about 50nm.

Homework Equations



The calculation was done as follows: For a chosen force range the [itex]F[/itex]-data were converted to [itex]F^{-1/2} [/itex] and plotted vs. [itex]x[/itex]. The data points were fitted linearly.

According to an interpolation formula the extension [itex]x[/itex] of a worm like chain with contour length [itex]L_0[/itex] (Bustamante et al.,1994) is:

[itex]\frac{FP}{k_BT}=\frac{1}{4}(1−\frac{x}{L_0})−2−\frac{1}{4}+\frac{x}{L_0}[/itex],

applicable for a force range of ~5-15pN, where the molecule reveals a linear [itex]F-x[/itex] relationship (like a Hookean spring).

From that follows that the y-intercept of the straight line fitted to the data points is [itex]2\sqrt{\frac{P}{k_BT}}[/itex].

The Attempt at a Solution



The problem is (as I think) that the slope of the fitted straight line is too low. So I chose different force-ranges, as I thought, that the chosen force range might be wrong. But that didnt work. In the attachement of the thread "Calculate persistence length from force extension data of a single DNA" one can find the force curve and a [itex]F^{-1/2}-x[/itex] graph, plotted for a force range of 6-16pN, with the linear fit: slope of -1.5151, the y-intercept at 1.6931 and a calculated persistence length of 2.9455 nm

I really would appreciate some help

Pen
 
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pen said:
Hello!

1. The problem statement and all variables

AIM: Calculating persistence length [itex]P[/itex] of a single dsDNA molecule from a data set of force [itex]F[/itex] (to the molecule) vs. extension [itex]x[/itex] measurements. Experimental background: pN forces were applied to a single dsDNA molecule spanned between two μm-beads using an optical tweezer.

PROBLEM: When I calculate [itex]P[/itex], I get values of about 2.9 nm, which is far below the expected value for [itex]P[/itex] of dsDNA, which is about 50nm.

Homework Equations



The calculation was done as follows: For a chosen force range the [itex]F[/itex]-data were converted to [itex]F^{-1/2} [/itex] and plotted vs. [itex]x[/itex]. The data points were fitted linearly.

According to an interpolation formula the extension [itex]x[/itex] of a worm like chain with contour length [itex]L_0[/itex] (Bustamante et al.,1994) is:

[itex]\frac{FP}{k_BT}=\frac{1}{4}(1−\frac{x}{L_0})−2−\frac{1}{4}+\frac{x}{L_0}[/itex],

applicable for a force range of ~5-15pN, where the molecule reveals a linear [itex]F-x[/itex] relationship (like a Hookean spring).

From that follows that the y-intercept of the straight line fitted to the data points is [itex]2\sqrt{\frac{P}{k_BT}}[/itex].

The Attempt at a Solution



The problem is (as I think) that the slope of the fitted straight line is too low. So I chose different force-ranges, as I thought, that the chosen force range might be wrong. But that didnt work. In the attachement of the thread "Calculate persistence length from force extension data of a single DNA" one can find the force curve and a [itex]F^{-1/2}-x[/itex] graph, plotted for a force range of 6-16pN, with the linear fit: slope of -1.5151, the y-intercept at 1.6931 and a calculated persistence length of 2.9455 nm

I really would appreciate some help

Pen

I know approximately nothing about this subject, but the equation quoted relating F and x which I gather are your experimental parameters is linear so I don't understand how a square root could enter your calculation of an intercept. I wonder at a formula that contains 1/4 - 1/4.
 
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Hello Epenguin!

Sorry, my mistake: it should be [itex] \big(1-\frac{x}{L_0}\Big)^{-2}[/itex] instead of [itex] \big(1-\frac{x}{L_0}\Big)[/itex] in the equation.
 
  • #4
Too much guessing needed now, maybe if you quoted the equation and showed the plot something might become apparent.
 
  • #5
elope


Hello Penelope,

Thank you for sharing your problem and your attempt at a solution. From your description, it seems like you have followed the correct steps to calculate the persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule. However, the calculated value of 2.9 nm is significantly lower than the expected value of 50 nm. There could be a few reasons for this discrepancy:

1. Experimental error: It is possible that there were errors in the experimental setup or data collection that led to inaccurate force and extension measurements. This could be due to factors such as equipment calibration, external disturbances, or human error. It would be helpful to repeat the experiment and see if you get similar results.

2. Assumptions and limitations: The formula you used to calculate the persistence length assumes a linear relationship between force and extension, and it is only applicable for a specific force range of 5-15 pN. If the force range used in your experiment was outside of this range, it could have affected the accuracy of your calculations. Additionally, the formula assumes a worm-like chain model and does not account for the complexity of DNA structure. It is possible that these assumptions and limitations could have contributed to the discrepancy in your results.

3. Other factors: There could be other factors that affect the persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule, such as temperature, salt concentration, and DNA sequence. These factors may need to be controlled or taken into account in your calculations.

In conclusion, while your approach to calculating the persistence length seems correct, there could be various reasons for the discrepancy in your results. It would be helpful to carefully evaluate and control for potential sources of error and limitations in your experiment, and perhaps consult with other experts in the field for further insights. Good luck with your research!

Best regards,
 

1. What is the definition of persistence length?

Persistence length is a measure of the stiffness or rigidity of a polymer, specifically a DNA molecule. It is the length scale over which the molecule maintains its directionality in bending or twisting.

2. How is the persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule calculated?

The persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule can be calculated using various experimental techniques, such as optical tweezers or atomic force microscopy, which measure the molecule's bending or twisting properties. The data obtained from these experiments can then be used to calculate the persistence length using mathematical models.

3. What factors can affect the calculation of persistence length?

The calculation of persistence length can be affected by various factors, such as the length and sequence of the DNA molecule, as well as the temperature and ionic strength of the solution in which the molecule is measured. Other factors, such as the presence of DNA binding proteins, can also impact the molecule's bending and twisting properties.

4. Why is the persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule important in biological research?

The persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule is an important parameter in understanding the physical properties and behavior of DNA in biological systems. It can provide insights into how DNA interacts with proteins, how it is packaged in cells, and how it is replicated and transcribed.

5. Can the persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule vary between individuals?

Yes, the persistence length of a single dsDNA molecule can vary between individuals due to genetic differences in the DNA sequence. It can also vary within an individual's cells, as different regions of the genome may have different persistence lengths depending on their function and interactions with other molecules.

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