Can a type K thermocouple be used with cryo?

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jonhswon
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Hi.

I can not understand why type K tc can not be used with cryogenic temperatures?

If for example calibrated with liquid nitrogen and ice, can it be used from 0 C to -200 C accurately?

I understand that there is a non-linear characteristic a lower temperatures, but then one could make a voltage-to-temp plot by calibrating against ice, liquid nitrogen, solid ice, etc.. and obtain a curve.

Does the inaccuracy arise simply because they are usually calibrated with ice and boiling water only, then linear interpolation/extrapolation line is drawn, OR is there something else that I am missing?
 
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Maybe the metals or the alloy junction are superconductors at cryogenic temperatures.

Does the Seebeck effect vanish, or the calibration change, in superconductive metals?
 
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Baluncore said:
Maybe the metals or the alloy junction are superconductors at cryogenic temperatures.

Does the Seebeck effect vanish, or the calibration change, in superconductive metals?

No, not at the temperatures mentioned in the OP (liquid nitrogen). There are very few metalsa/alloy that become superconducting even at liqduid helium temperatures (Nb, NbN, Pb and some alloys); there are none at liquid nitrogen temperatures.
For the type of metals that thermocouples are made you typically have to go to mK temperatures; and not all metals become superconducting even then.
 
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The Lakeshore link has an error (I think): The page claims a Type K sensitivity of 4.1 mV/K @ 20K. I think they meant 'uV.'
 
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1. Can a Type K thermocouple be used in cryogenic temperatures?

No, a Type K thermocouple is generally not suitable for cryogenic applications. Type K thermocouples, made from nickel-chromium and nickel-alumel, are typically used within the temperature range of -200°C to 1350°C. However, their accuracy and reliability significantly diminish below -200°C, making them unsuitable for cryogenic conditions where temperatures can go much lower.

2. What happens to a Type K thermocouple when used in cryogenic temperatures?

When a Type K thermocouple is used in cryogenic temperatures, its materials may not function as expected due to the extreme cold. The metallic components can become brittle and lose their electrical properties, leading to inaccurate temperature readings and potential failure of the thermocouple.

3. What are the recommended thermocouple types for cryogenic applications?

For cryogenic applications, Type E, T, and C thermocouples are generally recommended. Type E (nickel-chromium/constantan) and Type T (copper/constantan) are suitable for temperatures down to -270°C. Type C (tungsten-rhenium) can be used for temperatures as low as -270°C up to 2315°C, providing a broader range suitable for various extreme conditions.

4. Why is Type K not recommended for cryogenic use despite its wide temperature range?

Type K thermocouples are not recommended for cryogenic use primarily due to the behavior of their constituent materials at extremely low temperatures. While they have a wide general temperature range, the nickel-chromium and nickel-alumel alloys used in Type K are not optimized for the physical and electrical properties required at cryogenic temperatures, leading to potential inaccuracies and material degradation.

5. Are there any modifications or alternatives to using Type K thermocouples in cryogenic environments?

While there are no practical modifications to make Type K thermocouples suitable for cryogenic environments, using alternative types specifically designed for low temperatures is recommended. Type E, T, and C thermocouples are better alternatives. Additionally, considering non-contact temperature measurement methods like infrared sensors might be advisable for certain cryogenic applications where contact-based methods like thermocouples are not viable.

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