Can centripetal/centrifugal force raise itself

In summary, Professor Laithwaite's claim that spinning gyroscopes weigh less and can be used for reactionless propulsion was rejected by the Royal Institution. This claim has not been proven and there is no mathematical formula to calculate the speed needed for a laithwaite engine to lift off the ground.
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So my question is, if a laithwaite engine (my attached photo) spins fast enough, will it be able to lift off the ground?

And if yes, what's the maths to calculate the speed needed to make it lift?
 

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In order to be able to lift off, the engine must be capable of producing an aerodynamic effect such that the air pressure is higher under the engine and lower above the engine so we have a net upwards force. This engine by the looks of it isn't capable of producing much of an aerodynamic effect, no matter how fast is spinning.

To make it more clear, the two "wings" of this engine are raised due to internal forces. Internal forces can't make the engine raise as a whole, you need an external force (such as that from the air due to an aerodynamic effect) to raise the center of mass of the whole engine.
 
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So my question is, if a laithwaite engine (my attached photo) spins fast enough, will it be able to lift off the ground? And if yes, what's the maths to calculate the speed needed to make it lift?

No. Sadly Prof. Laithwaite was mistaken.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Laithwaite

In his lecture before the Royal Institution he claimed that gyroscopes weigh less when spinning and, to demonstrate this, he showed that he could lift a spinning gyroscope mounted on the end of a rod easily with one hand but could not do so when the gyroscope was not spinning. At this time, Laithwaite suggested that Newton's laws of motion could not account for the behaviour of gyroscopes and that they could be used as a means of reactionless propulsion. The members of the Royal Institution rejected his ideas and his lecture was not published.
 
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1. Can centripetal force raise itself?

No, centripetal force does not raise itself. It is a force that acts towards the center of a circle or curved path, keeping an object moving in a circular motion. It is always directed towards the center and does not have the ability to raise itself.

2. Can centrifugal force raise itself?

Similar to centripetal force, centrifugal force also cannot raise itself. It is an apparent force that appears to push an object away from the center of rotation, but it is actually the result of inertia. It is not a real force and therefore cannot raise itself.

3. What is the difference between centripetal and centrifugal force?

Centripetal force is a real force that acts towards the center of a circle or curved path, while centrifugal force is an apparent force that appears to push an object away from the center of rotation. Centripetal force keeps an object moving in a circular motion, while centrifugal force is the result of inertia trying to keep an object moving in a straight line.

4. Is centripetal force always present in circular motion?

Yes, centripetal force is always present in circular motion. In order for an object to maintain a circular path, there must be a force acting towards the center of the circle. This force is provided by centripetal force.

5. Can centripetal/centrifugal force be manipulated?

Yes, centripetal and centrifugal forces can be manipulated by changing the speed or radius of the circular motion. Increasing the speed or decreasing the radius will result in a stronger centripetal force, while decreasing the speed or increasing the radius will result in a weaker centripetal force. However, centrifugal force cannot be directly manipulated as it is an apparent force.

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