Can You Prove This Infinite Series Inequality?

Ok ... i am understanding a bit now.Actually I'm learning these things on my own so this isn't exactly homework(no teacher help) ... just questions from a book(without solutions:wink:) or any other source.Abdul Quadeer's method was quite nice and it didn't have to use calculus too. ehildI am glad you understand it. It is a pleasure to help. Yes, it is a nice puzzle! I am glad you understood the solution. :)In summary, the conversation discusses different methods to prove the inequality 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/7 + 1/11 + ...... <= 2*pi. One method suggested is using the integral
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Homework Statement



Prove that

1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/7 + 1/11 + ...... <= 2*pi


Homework Equations


none


The Attempt at a Solution


all i could figure out was the nth term of the sequence

[tex]
T(n) = \frac{2}{2 + n(n-1)}
[/tex]

any help appreciated.:biggrin:
 
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please give me a starting tip atleast ! :approve:
 
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I do not have any other idea. What have you learned about infinite series?

ehild
 
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Try to approximate the circumference of the unit circle by inscribed polygons.

ehild
 
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ehild said:
I do not have any other idea. What have you learned about infinite series?

ehild

all i know is about diverging and converging GP (infinite) and sum of decreasing infinite GP.
 
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ehild said:
Try to approximate the circumference of the unit circle by inscribed polygons.

ehild

Sorry, but i did not get you in this, and how would it help me solve the question...
the circumference i know is given by 2*pi*r so here it becomes 2*pi..
 
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I have no idea how can you prove this inequality if you studied only GP-s yet. In the integral method I suggested I would find a function which takes the same values as the terms of this progression at positive integers. All terms are positive, so the area under the function from x=0 to infinity is higher than the sum of the areas of the yellow rectangles, which is the same as the sum of the terms from n=1 to infinity , see the picture. But it is rather complicated. You can transform the terms in the progression so they take the form A/(1+z^2 ) and the integral of such function is A(atan(infinity) - atan (0) ) =A pi/2. ehild
 

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ehild said:
You can transform the terms in the progression so they take the form A/(1+z^2 ) and the integral of such function is A(atan(infinity) - atan (0) ) =A pi/2.

ehild

I did get the rest... though this part flew over my head.:confused:
What are A and z^2 and how did the small 'a' come in the integral part?
 
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z is a new variable instead of n, defined as z=(n-a)b, which makes 1/(n2-n+2)=A/(1+z2). You have to find the parameters a and b.

I meant by "atan" the function "arctangent", the inverse of tangent.

You can not use this method without knowing calculus. I just wanted to show a possible way of solution. What did your teacher suggest, how to solve the problem?

I made a mistake in the last formula in my previous post, as A is not the same there as it was in A/(1+z2). It is an other constant, say B.

ehild
 
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I don't know how to use Latex in this.
Click this link

http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\sum_{n%3D1}^{\infty}%20\frac{2}{2+n%28n-1%29}%20%3C%202%20\left%281+%20\sum_{n%3D2}^{\infty}%20\frac{1}{n%28n-1%29}%20\right%29%20%3D%204%3C%202%20\pi

Hope you got it now
 
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Abdul Quadeer said:
I don't know how to use Latex in this.
Click this link

http://codecogs.izyba.com/gif.latex?\sum_{n%3D1}^{\infty}%20\frac{2}{2+n%28n-1%29}%20%3C%202%20\left%281+%20\sum_{n%3D2}^{\infty}%20\frac{1}{n%28n-1%29}%20\right%29%20%3D%204%3C%202%20\pi

Hope you got it now

Hey, thanks bud!
this is a nice way!
 
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ehild said:
z is a new variable instead of n, defined as z=(n-a)b, which makes 1/(n2-n+2)=A/(1+z2). You have to find the parameters a and b.

I meant by "atan" the function "arctangent", the inverse of tangent.

You can not use this method without knowing calculus. I just wanted to show a possible way of solution. What did your teacher suggest, how to solve the problem?

I made a mistake in the last formula in my previous post, as A is not the same there as it was in A/(1+z2). It is an other constant, say B.

ehild

Ok ... i am understanding a bit now.
Actually I'm learning these things on my own so this isn't exactly homework(no teacher help) ... just questions from a book(without solutions:wink:) or any other source.

Abdul Quadeer's method was quite nice and it didn't have to use calculus too.
 
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The legend said:
Abdul Quadeer's method was quite nice and it didn't have to use calculus too.

Yes, it was an ingenious solution!

ehild
 

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