MHB Combination/probability question (High School level)

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The discussion revolves around a high school-level probability problem involving combinations of girls and boys. The initial incorrect approach resulted in overcounting groups with three girls, highlighting the importance of treating each scenario separately. Participants agree that calculating the combinations for different group compositions, such as 2 girls and 1 boy versus 3 girls, and then summing those results is a clearer method. There's a light-hearted exchange about the randomness of selecting students for a debate, adding humor to the technical discussion. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for careful counting in probability problems to avoid errors.
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Hi all. I'm doing a counting/probability problem here.
I can see how the correct answer for part b is arrived at by counting the number of combinations for "2 girls" then counting the number of combinations for "3 girls" , and adding these results.
But I've attached my first way of approaching it, which is wrong. Wondering if anyone can tell me why my approach doesn't give the correct answer. I know it's probably something obvious that I'm missing.
Thanks
 

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With your method groups with 3 girls get counted 3 times each rather than once each.
 
romsek said:
With your method groups with 3 girls get counted 3 times each rather than once each.
Thank you for replying. I can see that makes sense now.

So the best approach with these types of problems is to treat each situation separately? ie. find how many ways you can have 2 girls and 1 boy, then find how many ways you can have 3 girls and 0 boys, then add the 2 figures?

Mick
 
Micky1964 said:
Thank you for replying. I can see that makes sense now.

So the best approach with these types of problems is to treat each situation separately? ie. find how many ways you can have 2 girls and 1 boy, then find how many ways you can have 3 girls and 0 boys, then add the 2 figures?

Mick

It's a bit difficult to cite any approach as "best" given the variety of problems that exist but generally separating the cases helps ensure you won't multiply count specific situations.
 
I think it odd that choosing students "to represent the class in a debate" would be done at random!
 
Country Boy said:
I think it odd that choosing students "to represent the class in a debate" would be done at random!
You clearly never went to my High School.

-Dan
 
Yeah, I dropped out in the fourth grade!
 

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