Condensate flow and mold in mini-split ductless AC indoor unit

In summary, the conversation discusses the phenomenon of condensed water accumulating on the evaporator of an air conditioner, and the concern of this water being carried into the room by the blower. The experts explain that the design of the air conditioner prevents this from happening, as the airflow velocity is too low to carry the droplets off the evaporator. They also caution against pouring disinfectant onto the evaporator, suggesting alternative methods such as using coil cleaner or using tablets to prevent microbial growth in the drain pan. It is also mentioned that accumulation of dust in the coil can cause problems and that the air handling unit being part of a mini-split system might be a factor in the foul smell.
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My AC has begun to emit a rather foul smell, which has led me to geek out on the inner workings of its indoor section.

For example, how does the condensed moisture make its way to the drain pan? I am assuming that the condensation happens on the fins of the evaporator. But in that case, what prevents the condensed water droplets from being drawn through the fins and through the blower, and then being thrown into the room?

This question in turn arises because I was wondering if a bit of diluted disinfectant or antifungal liquid, if poured onto the top of the evaporator, will end up mostly in the drain pan? If yes, then that will be a way for me to disinfect the drain pan without dismantling the unit.
 
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The water is already in the incoming air. When the air temperature drops when in contact with the evaporator, the air loses the ability to transport that much water, and thus the extra water is expelled from the air, falling on the evaporator. This is the same phenomenon as when the hot air from inside the house hits a cold window: The water leaves the cooler air and rests on the window.

Looking at this table, imagine you have air at 50°C with 50 % relative humidity; that's 41.5 g/m³ of water coming in. After crossing the evaporator, it's now at 25°C. The maximum possible relative humidity is 100 % or 23.0 g/m³ of water. The difference must come out of the air and thus accumulates on the evaporator. When there is too much on the evaporator, it drips away.

So what came out of the air because of a temperature change will never go back in, i.e. being picked up again, unless much dryer or hotter air comes in afterward.
 
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When there is too much on the evaporator, it drips away.
That is exactly my point. My question is not about re-evaporation of this dripping water (which is what your reply addresses, if I understand correctly).

My question is about mechanical transport of the dripping water, impelled by the blower, into the room. What prevents this?
 
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Surface tension?

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Surface tension?

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So if I slowly and carefully dribble some disinfectant-laced water onto the top of the evaporator, it will find its way into the drain pan and not damage other things, and not drip out of the air outlet?
 
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Were I worrying about such things, I would
  1. Get a good spray bottle, put in a solution of water with a few squirts dish detergent (not the dishwasher stuff) and set it on fine mist
  2. Remove the "air filter sponge" on the inlet
  3. turn on the airflow and allow the sprayed mist to be inhaled by the air conditioner for a while suficient to use up some spray and dribble out the efflux pipe
I have never done this nor do I claim particular expertise
 
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Swamp Thing said:
My question is about mechanical transport of the dripping water, impelled by the blower, into the room. What prevents this?
The airflow velocity is too low (by design) to carry the droplets off the evaporator so instead they fall into the drain pan.
 
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So if I slowly and carefully dribble some disinfectant-laced water onto the top of the evaporator, it will find its way into the drain pan and not damage other things, and not drip out of the air outlet?
Please don't. The properties of water including surface tension, mass and vapor pressure along with the velocity keep it on the coil. The disinfectant might just evaporate into the air.

Just buy coil cleaner and spray it on the coil with the unit off. They are usually citric acid based.

And make sure you are using decent filters; an ac evaporator coil should normally be clean aluminum covered with distilled water. Not an attractive place for mold.

Unless you/the inhabitants are a smoker.
 
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Swamp Thing said:
... This question in turn arises because I was wondering if a bit of diluted disinfectant or antifungal liquid, if poured onto the top of the evaporator, will end up mostly in the drain pan? If yes, then that will be a way for me to disinfect the drain pan without dismantling the unit.
There are some commercially available tablets that keep certain type of algae to grow in condensate pans that are not fully draining out due to incorrect leveling of the air handler unit.

Lacking those tablets that slowly dissolve themselves, some people use small amounts of vinegar once a month or so.

Accumulation of dust in the coil (due to deficient filter) can produce all kind of problems, since disruption of air flow and heat transfer until microbial growth.

Is your air handling unit part of a mini-split system, as the title of the thread seems to suggest?
 
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Is your air handling unit part of a mini-split system, as the title of the thread seems to suggest?
Yes, it is.
 
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1. What is condensate flow in a mini-split ductless AC indoor unit?

Condensate flow refers to the process of water vapor condensing into liquid form and flowing out of the AC unit. In a mini-split ductless AC, this happens when warm air passes over the cold evaporator coil, causing moisture to condense and collect in a drain pan. The water then flows out of the unit through a drain line.

2. How does condensate flow affect the performance of a mini-split ductless AC?

If the condensate flow is obstructed or not functioning properly, it can lead to water buildup in the unit, which can cause the AC to malfunction or shut down completely. It can also lead to mold growth and other issues if not addressed promptly.

3. How can I prevent mold from forming in my mini-split ductless AC indoor unit?

To prevent mold growth, it is important to regularly clean and maintain the AC unit, including the evaporator coil and drain pan. It is also recommended to use an anti-mold treatment or add a drain line trap to prevent water from backing up into the unit.

4. What are the signs of mold in a mini-split ductless AC indoor unit?

The most common signs of mold in a mini-split ductless AC include a musty odor, visible mold growth on the unit or surrounding areas, and an increase in allergy symptoms or respiratory issues when the AC is running.

5. How can I fix condensate flow issues in my mini-split ductless AC indoor unit?

If you are experiencing condensate flow issues, it is best to contact a professional HVAC technician. They can inspect the unit, clear any clogs or obstructions in the drain line, and ensure that the condensate pump and other components are functioning properly.

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