Constant along a geodesic vs covariantly constant

In summary, there are two ways to describe a quantity, tensor, or scalar as constant along an affinely parameterized geodesic: one is by showing that it is covariantly constant or parallel transported, and the other is by showing that its derivative with respect to the affine parameter is zero. While these two concepts may seem different, they are equivalent in terms of the mathematical operation of taking derivatives.
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some questions I have seen tend to word as show that some quantity/tensor/scalar (e.g let this be ##K##) is constant along an affinely parameterised geodesic, others ask show covariantly constant.

the definiton of covariantly constant/ parallel transport is:

## V^a\nabla_u K = 0 ##for the quantity ##K## where ##V^a## is the tangent vector to the geodesicsimply constant is wr.t the affine paramter

##\frac{d}{ds} K =0 ##

but, it is often the case, to show the latter case, we use the chain rule , i.e. that ## \frac{d}{ds} = V^a \nabla_a## when showing covariantly constant

e.g for the proof that given a KVF ##K^u##, we make use of the chain rule (connections not needed since we are acting on a scalar) to show that along a geodesic ##V^uK^u## is conserved.

But are, simply being constant w.r.t the affine parameter, and being covariantly constant/parallel transported not different things physically?

thanks.
 
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binbagsss said:
are, simply being constant w.r.t the affine parameter, and being covariantly constant/parallel transported not different things physically?

Why do you think they would be?
 
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What exactly is the confusion here? If ##X## is a vector field and ##f## a function, then the derivative of ##f## in the direction of ##X## is ##\nabla_Xf=X(f)## and doesn't depend on the connection.
 
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Are you asking about the intuitive difference between the Lie derivative and the covariant derivative?
 

1. What is the difference between a constant along a geodesic and a covariantly constant quantity?

A constant along a geodesic is a quantity that remains the same as an object moves along a geodesic, which is the shortest path between two points in curved space. A covariantly constant quantity, on the other hand, remains the same under general coordinate transformations in curved space.

2. How are these two types of constants related to each other?

A constant along a geodesic is a special case of a covariantly constant quantity, meaning that a constant along a geodesic is also covariantly constant. However, not all covariantly constant quantities are constants along a geodesic.

3. What is the significance of these constants in general relativity?

In general relativity, these constants play a crucial role in determining the motion of objects in curved space. A quantity that is constant along a geodesic represents a conserved quantity, such as energy or momentum, while a covariantly constant quantity represents a property of the space itself, such as its curvature.

4. How can we determine if a quantity is constant along a geodesic or covariantly constant?

In order to determine if a quantity is constant along a geodesic, we can use the geodesic equation, which describes the path an object will follow in curved space. To determine if a quantity is covariantly constant, we can perform a coordinate transformation and see if the quantity remains unchanged.

5. Can a quantity be both constant along a geodesic and covariantly constant?

Yes, a quantity can be both constant along a geodesic and covariantly constant. In fact, this is often the case for conserved quantities, such as energy or momentum, which are both constant along a geodesic and covariantly constant.

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