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In summary: Please do stick around and help others, when you can. You’ll find it’s a great way to solidify your own knowledge.OK. Great! Welcome to PhysicsForums. Please do stick around and help others, when you can. You’ll find it’s a great way to solidify your own knowledge.In summary, the conversation revolved around a question regarding the correctness of an answer in regards to a hinge's force. Through the discussion, it was determined that the vertical component of the hinge's force should include the tension in its calculation. The conversation ended with the user gaining a better understanding of the concept and being welcomed to the PhysicsForums community.
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1. Link to problem and the answer I got - https://ibb.co/ncGfDA

2. I got an answer, but I was wondering if this is correct or not? Am I correct to say (in part c) that the vertical component of the hinge's force will be equal to the sum of the vertical forces being exerted in the negative direction?


3. I attempted my answer (hopefully finished) in the link above
 
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dangerboyy said:
Link to full question and my answer at the bottom of text

I got an answer, but I was wondering if this is correct or not? Am I correct to say (in part c) that the vertical component of the hinge's force will be equal to the sum of the vertical forces being exerted in the negative direction?


https://ibb.co/ncGfDA
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Hello @dangerboyy . :welcome:

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Sorry, I'll keep this in mind. I'm a newby here who didn't pay enough attention to how to do the template, simply hoping my text would suffice.

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dangerboyy said:

Am I correct to say (in part c) that the vertical component of the hinge's force will be equal to the sum of the vertical forces being exerted in the negative direction?
Not quite. Wouldn't you need to include the vertical component of FT in your calculation of (FH)y?
 
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TSny said:
Not quite. Wouldn't you need to include the vertical component of FT in your calculation of (FH)y?
That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't exactly sure how to get an answer if I did so. May I request guidance?
 
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The system is in static equilibrium. So, what can you say about ΣFx and ΣFy?
 
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TSny said:
The system is in static equilibrium. So, what can you say about ΣFx and ΣFy?
Well, ΣFx and ΣFy must both equal 0 in static equilibrium. How could I separate Fy in the positive direction among the cord and hinge?

edit - a light bulb turned on in my brain - Could I find Fy of the cord, then subtract from the total Fy in the positive direction to find that of the hinge?
 
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dangerboyy said:
That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't exactly sure how to get an answer if I did so. May I request guidance?

You’ve done everything correctly except when you balanced the vertical forces you forgot to include the tension. In exactly the same way you included Ft cos(30) in the horizontal forces add the vertical component into to equation with the vertical forces. It’s just one more term, and you already know the value.
 
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You’ve done everything correctly except when you balanced the vertical forces you forgot to include the tension. In exactly the same way you included Ft cos(30) in the horizontal forces add the vertical component into to equation with the vertical forces. It’s just one more term, and you already know the value.
Thanks! I believe I have this well understood now. Thanks to all others who helped me look past my stupidity as well. I'm brand new to this community, and this was a great first experience. Thanks
 
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dangerboyy said:
Thanks! I believe I have this well understood now. Thanks to all others who helped me look past my stupidity as well. I'm brand new to this community, and this was a great first experience. Thanks
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