Cycloid pendulum (Huygens)

In summary, some articles use x and y coordinates to calculate the Lagrangian for a pendulum, even though the coordinates of the pendulum's mass are not x and y. This could be due to personal preference or convenience for the individuals discussing the topic. It is possible to construct the Lagrangian using different coordinates.
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"Huygens' ingenious idea, which he put into practice, was to vary the eective length of the pendulum by allowing its cord to wrap partially around an obstruction as it swings"

the coordinates of cycloid are:

[tex]x=a(\theta -\sin \theta)[/tex]
[tex]y=a(\cos \theta +1)[/tex]

why in somes articles, they use the coordinates x,y for calculate de Lagrangian ?, when the unknown quantity is the period. My question is because, the coordinates of mass of pendulum not are x and y (this are the coordinates of cycloid).

for example in this links use x and y.

http://forum.lawebdefisica.com/threads/1873-Péndulo-cicloidal
 

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I'm not sure what you are asking about:
People are free to use whatever coordinate system they want.
Usually there is some advantage to the choice.

In your link - the choice of coordinates is not due to the website you link to, but to the people discussing the question. That is their personal choice. Maybe those people just find Cartesian coordinates comfortable?

Have you tried constructing the Lagrangian in another way?
 

1. What is a cycloid pendulum?

A cycloid pendulum, also known as a Huygens pendulum, is a type of pendulum that moves in a cycloidal path, rather than the traditional back-and-forth motion of a simple pendulum. It was first described by Dutch scientist Christiaan Huygens in the 17th century.

2. How does a cycloid pendulum work?

A cycloid pendulum works by using the principle of conservation of energy. As the pendulum swings, its potential energy is converted into kinetic energy, causing it to move in a cycloidal path. The cycloidal path is a result of the pendulum's length and the force of gravity acting on it.

3. What are the applications of a cycloid pendulum?

Cycloid pendulums have been used in various scientific experiments and demonstrations, as well as in timekeeping devices. They are also used in amusement park rides, such as swinging pirate ships, to create a smooth and thrilling motion.

4. How is a cycloid pendulum different from a simple pendulum?

A cycloid pendulum differs from a simple pendulum in its motion. A simple pendulum swings back and forth in a straight line, while a cycloid pendulum moves in a cycloidal path. Additionally, the period of a cycloid pendulum is not affected by the amplitude of its swing, unlike a simple pendulum.

5. Can the length of a cycloid pendulum be adjusted?

Yes, the length of a cycloid pendulum can be adjusted by changing the position of the pendulum's pivot point. By adjusting the length, the period of the pendulum can also be changed. This allows for different types of cycloid paths to be created.

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