Delta/Epsilon (Need opinions on my solution, I am new to these)

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I think this is a little easier to connect with the problem statement.Now let's go back to your proof:okay so we have |x-3| |x+3| < e. and we have |x-3| < e/7. so by transitivity we have |x-3| |x+3| < e/7. And this is just a restatement of the proof.But what we really want to show is that |x^2 - 9| < e. But we can't use the proof to do that. Because we can only use the information given in the problem statement. We do not have the information that |x^2-9| < |x-3| |
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Homework Statement



Suppose that δ = min{1,e/7}. Show that
if |x - 3| < δ, then |x^2 - 9| < e

Homework Equations



Don't know.


The Attempt at a Solution



|x - 3| |x + 3| < e

Given : |x - 3| < δ => |x - 3| < e/7

|x + 3| |x-3| < e/7
|x + 3| 7|x - 3| < e

Assume δ < 1, => |x - 3| < 1 => -4 < x < -2

Sub (-4)

| (-4) + 3| 7|x-3| < e
|x-3| < e/7


Is this circular? Please give some feedback!
Thank you!
 
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Have an ε (epsilon).
JPanthon said:

Homework Statement



Suppose that δ = min{1,e/7}. Show that
if |x - 3| < δ, then |x^2 - 9| < e

Homework Equations



Don't know.

The Attempt at a Solution



|x - 3| |x + 3| < e

Given : |x - 3| < δ => |x - 3| < e/7

|x + 3| |x-3| < e/7
|x + 3| 7|x - 3| < e

Assume δ < 1, => |x - 3| < 1 => -4 < x < -2

Sub (-4)

| (-4) + 3| 7|x-3| < e
|x-3| < e/7Is this circular? Please give some feedback!
Thank you!
It's not so much circular as it is helter-skelter.

Start with 0 < |x-3| < δ , where δ = min(1, ε/7), for an arbitrary ε > 0 .

Show that |x^2 - 9| < ε .

Here's a start:
You know that 0 < |x-3| < 1
So you know that -1 < x-3 < 1
From this you can eventually conclude that |x + 3| < 7
You also know that |x-3| < ε/7.
so |x-3||x + 3| < (ε/7) |x + 3| < ...

Maybe I showed you too much ?
 
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I never liked the standard version of the proof. I prefer to think about it like this:

say x = 3 + s. Were s is small. Then |3-x| = |s|. So we need to show:

if |s| < δ then |(3+s)^2 - 9| < ε.

|(3+s)^2 - 9| = |s2 + 6s| <= |s2| +6|s|

Okay so s is small so s2 is going to be very small, much smaller then 6s in fact but to make this rigorous let's say |s| < 1.Then we have.
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|(3+s)^2 - 9| = |s2 + 6s| <= |s2| +|6s| <= |s| + 6|s| =7|s|

so we just need 7|s| < ε. So clearly just make |s| < ε/7. but we still need the condition |s|<1 so we say |s| < min(1,ε/7). but |3-x| = |s|. So let δ = min(1,ε/7). Which is the same answer you got.
 

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Delta/Epsilon is a mathematical concept used in calculus to define limits of functions. It involves the use of two variables, delta and epsilon, to represent small changes in the input and output values of a function. It is used to determine the behavior of a function as the input approaches a certain value.

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