Designing an Electric Aircraft: Testing Motor+Airfoil Configurations

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Engineering students are designing an electric aircraft inspired by NASA's technology, which utilizes 14 electric motors on the wings to enhance lift at lower speeds. There are concerns about the reliability of computational fluid dynamics (CFD) for predicting performance when altering airfoil designs, as CFD results can be inaccurate without experimental validation. Some students advocate for direct wind tunnel testing instead of relying solely on CFD simulations, citing the potential for significant errors, especially with complex rotational flows from propellers. It is suggested that CFD may only be dependable for refined designs where previous experimental data aligns with simulation outcomes. The discussion emphasizes the need for reliable methods to predict wing performance without extensive wind tunnel testing.
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Hello, me and other engineering students at my university are designing an electric aircraft and we are hoping to implement the technology that NASA is currently working on, http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-electric-research-plane-gets-x-number-new-name
Basically how it works is you have 14 electric motors placed across the wing, which gives you twice as much lift at lower speeds by accelerating the flow more.

My question is whether or not the result of theirs will be reliable for our prototype. If we choose to pick a different airfoil, I believe there could be a big difference in performance. My friend suggested using the CFD to test different motor+airfoil configurations across the wing, but I do not think we can trust CFD results. From my understanding, CFD data is only useful if it happens to match the experimental result because, if the CFD model happened to work and it should presumably predict the performance well even when the geometry(i.e. chord length) is modified. Is there a way to predict the performance of a wing in a more reliable way, without having to do a wind tunnel testing?

Thanks!
 
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Why not work in CFD until you find a solution that works in the simulation and then try testing real life prototypes from there?
 
aerohead_18 said:
Why not work in CFD until you find a solution that works in the simulation and then try testing real life prototypes from there?

Because there seems to be a lot of room for error in doing CFD, in fact since we need to simulate the rotational flow due to props the result might be highly unreliable. Quite a few of the Master students at my university seemed to ignore CFD and go straight to a wind tunnel testing. Once time I heard that most times CFD is only reliable for future iterations of a given design where the CFD and experimental data have already converged to the same value
 
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