Direction of force exerted by ground for the ladder problem

In summary: To summarize, the question is about the direction of the force exerted by the ground on a ladder in the classic ladder-leaning-against frictionless wall scenario. The force is aligned with the ladder in the direction of theta, and this hypothesis can be confirmed by solving the equations.
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This question pertains to the classic ladder-leaning-against frictionless wall scenario. The system is in static equilibrium. The ladder is thin and can be assumed to be made of a homogeneous material so that the center-of-mass lies at the geometric center.

The forces in this scenario is well-known, and diagrammed as follows. This type of problem can be solved by equating the sum of forces and torques to zero at any and all points, as is commonly done in static equilibrium problems.
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My question is: Is the direction of the force exerted by the ground on the ladder aligned with the ladder itself? That is, is the force exerted by the ground on the ladder in the direction \theta, as shown in the diagram?

This hypothesis seems plausible to me, because as theta becomes large (ladder is almost vertical), the force in question is also almost at 90 degrees. As theta approaches zero (ladder is almost horizontal), there is a large horizontal component, so the force is almost horizontal (to the right).

Could anyone confirm or disprove my hypothesis?
 
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ddcz said:
Is the direction of the force exerted by the ground on the ladder aligned with the ladder itself? That is, is the force exerted by the ground
Suppose it were. Consider moments about the mid point of the ladder.
 
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ddcz said:
This question pertains to the classic ladder-leaning-against frictionless wall scenario. The system is in static equilibrium. The ladder is thin and can be assumed to be made of a homogeneous material so that the center-of-mass lies at the geometric center.

The forces in this scenario is well-known, and diagrammed as follows. This type of problem can be solved by equating the sum of forces and torques to zero at any and all points, as is commonly done in static equilibrium problems.
Pic14.jpg


My question is: Is the direction of the force exerted by the ground on the ladder aligned with the ladder itself? That is, is the force exerted by the ground on the ladder in the direction \theta, as shown in the diagram?

This hypothesis seems plausible to me, because as theta becomes large (ladder is almost vertical), the force in question is also almost at 90 degrees. As theta approaches zero (ladder is almost horizontal), there is a large horizontal component, so the force is almost horizontal (to the right).

Could anyone confirm or disprove my hypothesis?

Why not solve the equations and see for yourself?
 

1. What is the direction of force exerted by the ground for the ladder problem?

The direction of force exerted by the ground for the ladder problem depends on the orientation of the ladder and the weight of the person or object on the ladder. Typically, the force exerted by the ground is perpendicular to the surface of the ground, which means it is directed upwards.

2. Does the direction of force exerted by the ground change if the ladder is leaning against a wall?

Yes, the direction of force exerted by the ground may change if the ladder is leaning against a wall. This is because the wall may provide additional support and change the distribution of weight, causing the force exerted by the ground to be at an angle instead of perpendicular to the ground.

3. How does the direction of force exerted by the ground affect the stability of the ladder?

The direction of force exerted by the ground plays a crucial role in the stability of the ladder. If the force is not perpendicular to the ground, it can cause the ladder to become unstable and potentially tip over. It is important to ensure that the force exerted by the ground is in the opposite direction of the weight on the ladder to maintain stability.

4. Can the direction of force exerted by the ground change as the person moves on the ladder?

Yes, the direction of force exerted by the ground can change as the person moves on the ladder. This is because the distribution of weight may shift, causing the force exerted by the ground to change accordingly. It is important to maintain a stable position on the ladder to avoid any sudden changes in the direction of force exerted by the ground.

5. How can the direction of force exerted by the ground be calculated for the ladder problem?

The direction of force exerted by the ground can be calculated using principles of physics, such as Newton's laws of motion and vector analysis. Factors such as the weight and orientation of the ladder, as well as the weight of the person or object on the ladder, must be taken into account when calculating the direction of force exerted by the ground.

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