Do any 3D Venn diagrams exist that have no 2D analogues?

In summary: Summary:: In summary, the conversation discusses whether a 3D Venn diagram can be constructed in such a way that it cannot be represented in a 2D Venn diagram without changing the relationships between the sets. The possibility of using different shapes in 2D and 3D Venn diagrams is also considered.
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Can any relationships between sets be dreamed up in a 3D Venn diagram that could not be done in a 2D Venn diagram?
If we were to use three-dimensional spheres to represent sets, could a 3D Venn diagram be constructed that could not be drawn as a normal 2D Venn diagram without changing the relationships between the sets?
 
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SamRoss said:
Summary:: Can any relationships between sets be dreamed up in a 3D Venn diagram that could not be done in a 2D Venn diagram?

What's your definition for a "relationship between sets"? If two sets have a unique single element in common, is that considered a relationship?
 
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SamRoss said:
Summary:: Can any relationships between sets be dreamed up in a 3D Venn diagram that could not be done in a 2D Venn diagram?

If we were to use three-dimensional spheres to represent sets, could a 3D Venn diagram be constructed that could not be drawn as a normal 2D Venn diagram without changing the relationships between the sets?
You should be able to work this out for yourself. I can think of a structure that can be represented in a 2D Venn diagram that cannot be properly represented using 3-spheres: A = {1, 2}, B = {1, 3}, C = {1, 4}.
The three spheres must all intersect because ## 1 \in A \cap B \cap C ## but if this is the case then the volume ## A \cap B \cap C' ## will not be empty.

Edit: why did you decide to restrict your 3D Venn diagram to 3-spheres: 2D Venn diagrams are not restricted to circles - actually shape doesn't really mean anything in the spaces in which we 'draw' Venn diagrams?
 
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Venn diagrams only require closed spaces so 2D does not have to be just circles and 3D does not have to be just spheres. Without the circle/sphere restrictions, it might always be possible to do a 3D that equates to a 2D, but I don't know that for sure.
 

1. What is a 3D Venn diagram with no 2D analogue?

A 3D Venn diagram is a visual representation of the relationships between three sets of data. It is created by overlapping three circles or spheres in three-dimensional space. A 3D Venn diagram with no 2D analogue refers to a diagram that cannot be accurately represented in two dimensions.

2. Why would a 3D Venn diagram have no 2D analogue?

A 3D Venn diagram may have no 2D analogue if the data being represented has more than three dimensions, making it impossible to accurately represent in two dimensions. Additionally, the positioning and overlapping of the circles or spheres in a 3D Venn diagram may not be achievable in a 2D space.

3. Can a 3D Venn diagram with no 2D analogue be useful?

Yes, a 3D Venn diagram with no 2D analogue can still be useful in certain contexts. It may be used to represent complex data sets or relationships that cannot be accurately shown in two dimensions. It can also provide a more comprehensive understanding of the relationships between three or more variables.

4. How can a 3D Venn diagram with no 2D analogue be created?

A 3D Venn diagram with no 2D analogue can be created using specialized software or by hand-drawing in a three-dimensional space. It requires careful consideration of the data being represented and the positioning of the circles or spheres to accurately convey the relationships between the variables.

5. Are there any real-life examples of 3D Venn diagrams with no 2D analogue?

Yes, there are real-life examples of 3D Venn diagrams with no 2D analogue. For instance, in molecular biology, 3D Venn diagrams are used to show the overlap of different gene expression patterns in three-dimensional space. These diagrams cannot be accurately represented in two dimensions due to the complexity of the data being represented.

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