Do DIFFERENT observers see a DIFFERENT force on accelerating body?

In summary: So, in summary, observers in different inertial reference frames will see a different force and record different measurements for acceleration of an accelerating body. This is due to the frame-variant nature of both force and acceleration in relativity.
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Hi, my question in full; Do DIFFERENT observers (in different INERTIAL reference frames) see a DIFFERENT force (Magnitude specifically) acting on an accelerating body?

I believe yes . Because... :

ƩF = d(p)/d(t) = m*a + v * d(m)/d(t)
where m = m0/√(1-v^2/c^2)

where v is different for every observer in a different inertial reference frame?

Hence, people in different reference frames 'see' a different force
Hence they also record different measurements for acceleration of the body? or does the acceleartion always agree and they record different measurements for the mass of the body w.r. to their own reference frame?

How correct is all this?
Thank you in advance.
 
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skunkswks said:
Hi, my question in full; Do DIFFERENT observers (in different INERTIAL reference frames) see a DIFFERENT force (Magnitude specifically) acting on an accelerating body?

I believe yes . Because... :

ƩF = d(p)/d(t) = m*a + v * d(m)/d(t)
where m = m0/√(1-v^2/c^2)

where v is different for every observer in a different inertial reference frame?

Hence, people in different reference frames 'see' a different force
Hence they also record different measurements for acceleration of the body? or does the acceleartion always agree and they record different measurements for the mass of the body w.r. to their own reference frame?

How correct is all this?
Thank you in advance.

You are correct on both accounts, both force and acceleration are frame-variant in relativity. There are specific Lorentz transforms for each of them.
 

Related to Do DIFFERENT observers see a DIFFERENT force on accelerating body?

1. How can different observers see a different force on an accelerating body?

The perception of force on an accelerating body depends on the frame of reference of the observer. This means that two observers in different frames of reference may see different forces acting on the same accelerating body. This is due to the principles of relativity, where the laws of physics are the same for all observers, but their observations may differ.

2. What is meant by the term "frame of reference" in this context?

A frame of reference is a coordinate system that is used to describe the motion and position of objects. It is a relative concept, as different observers may have different frames of reference depending on their point of view or location. In the context of force on an accelerating body, the frame of reference can affect the perceived force on the object.

3. Can the difference in perception of force on an accelerating body be explained by the theory of relativity?

Yes, the theory of relativity can explain why different observers may see a different force on an accelerating body. According to the theory, the laws of physics are the same for all observers, but their observations may differ based on their relative motion or position. This includes the perception of force on an accelerating body.

4. Are there any real-life examples of different observers seeing a different force on an accelerating body?

Yes, there are many real-life examples of this phenomenon. One example is the experience of weightlessness in an accelerating elevator. The person inside the elevator will feel weightless, as if there is no force acting on them, while an observer outside the elevator will see the person accelerating and may perceive a force acting on them.

5. How does the principle of equivalence relate to the perception of force on an accelerating body by different observers?

The principle of equivalence states that in a small region of space-time, the effects of gravity are equivalent to the effects of acceleration. This means that the perception of force on an accelerating body can be similar to the perception of gravitational force. Different observers may see different forces acting on the body, but the overall effect is the same. This principle is essential in understanding the concept of force on an accelerating body from different frames of reference.

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