Does an observer on a carousel see a horizon?

In summary: This path is called an 'event horizon'.In summary, an event horizon is a region of spacetime from which no signal reaches an accelerated observer.
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heinz
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Special relativity shows that any accelerated observer
sees an event horizon. In fact, if an observer is accelerated
by a, the horizon is at distance l=c^2/a in the direction
opposite to a.

If an observer is on a carousel or merry-go-round,
he is accelerated inwards. Does he then see a horizon
on the outside?

If so, does a horizon also appear for an observer in orbit,
thus when circling the Earth or the sun?

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No.

For an observer with constant 4-acceleration, there is a region of spacetime from which no signal reaches the accelerated observer. The boundary of this region is the horizon.

For the observer on a carousel, there is no such region of spacetime, and thus no horizon (boundary). A spacetime diagram that has two space dimensions and one time dimension shows this clearly.
 
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George Jones said:
No. For the observer on a carousel, there is no such region of spacetime, and thus no horizon (boundary). A spacetime diagram that has two space dimensions and one time dimension shows this clearly.

Thank you! Can I read this somewhere, maybe with a picture of the diagram?

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heinz said:
If so, does a horizon also appear for an observer in orbit,
thus when circling the Earth or the sun?
An observer in orbit does not accelerate. Such an observer would travel on a "straight line".
 
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heinz said:
Thank you! Can I read this somewhere, maybe with a picture of the diagram?

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I haven't tried to find this anywhere.

Suppose that the centre of the carousel is in an inertial reference frame, that the plane of the carousel is the x-y plane, and that a person on the edge of the carousel moves with constant speed 1/2 (c=1).

Then, the coordinates of the person on the edge are [itex]x = \cos \left( t/2 \right)[/itex] and [itex]y = \sin \left( t/2 \right)[/itex]. Plotting this worldline on a t-x-y spacetime diagram gives a helix about the t-axis (worldline of the centre).

Now pick an arbitrary event in spacetime. The attached spacetime diagram shows that there is a lightlike path from the event to the worldline of the person on the edge of the carousel.
 

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Related to Does an observer on a carousel see a horizon?

1. Does the horizon look different to an observer on a carousel compared to someone standing still?

Yes, the horizon will appear different to an observer on a carousel compared to someone standing still. This is because the observer on the carousel is continuously moving and changing their position, causing the horizon to shift in relation to their line of sight.

2. Is the horizon still visible to an observer on a fast-moving carousel?

Yes, the horizon will still be visible to an observer on a fast-moving carousel. However, it may appear distorted or moving due to the observer's continuous motion and changing perspective.

3. Will an observer on a carousel see the same horizon throughout their ride?

No, an observer on a carousel will not see the same horizon throughout their ride. As the carousel moves, the observer's position and perspective will also change, causing the horizon to appear differently at different points in the ride.

4. Can an observer on a carousel see the horizon from all angles?

Yes, an observer on a carousel can see the horizon from all angles. However, their perspective and the appearance of the horizon will change as the carousel rotates and they move around it.

5. Does the speed of the carousel affect how the horizon appears to an observer?

Yes, the speed of the carousel can affect how the horizon appears to an observer. The faster the carousel is moving, the quicker the observer's perspective and position will change, causing the horizon to appear more distorted and constantly shifting.

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