Effect of zero gravity on spinal compression

In summary, the conversation discusses a comparison between an experiment on spinal changes in astronauts in zero-gravity and in humans suspended in a lab setting to simulate zero-gravity. The researchers are trying to determine the best explanation for the significant difference in spinal changes between the two groups. Possible explanations include the mass of the volunteers, the weight of the body acting on the cartilage, and fluid accumulation in the head and neck. The conversation also mentions using equations to calculate and explain the difference in spinal changes.
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I am trying to compare an experiment on spinal changes due to zero-g in astronauts. Researchers simulated zero-g spinal elongation by suspending human subjects so that no part of their body touched the ground.

This figure shows the % change in disc thickness for each subject compared to data obtained from astronauts in space.
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I am trying to determine what is the best explanation for the significant difference in the spinal changes between the two groups:

1 - The mass of the volunteers did not decrease as it does in microgravity

2 - The weight of the body in the lab is still acting on the cartilage

3 - Volunteers were not suspended upside down to account for fluid accumulation in the head and neck

4 - Gravitational force is converted to tension in microgravity

Homework Equations



Fnet = ma

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I think the best explanation is that suspension does not eliminate gravity, so there will be stretching forces at all places where the subjects were attached to suspension wires. This would cause an even greater elongation of the spine than just the absence of gravity, since now I have a tension (T) opposing the weight of the subject on their spine, and the net force will cause the tissue to deform.

Would this be as simple as Fnet = ma = T - mg?

so T = ma + mg = m (a+g) which is greater then the stretching force on spine that occurs simply by the lack of gravity in space. Howver, the net a on the body being suspended is 0, so that T = mg. I know that the lack of gravity is not the same as applying an opposing force (T) to the spine, but I am having a tough time using equations to prove it.

Is there a better way to calculate this, or to explain it?
 

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I would assume that in both graphs the % Change is relative to the people under normal Earth gravity. Contrary to the labeling on the graph, I can imagine why the closed circles represent the microgravity data and I can guess how the open circles might represent the lab data, but I don't see it the other way around.
 
  • #3
kuruman said:
I would assume that in both graphs the % Change is relative to the people under normal Earth gravity. Contrary to the labeling on the graph, I can imagine why the closed circles represent the microgravity data and I can guess how the open circles might represent the lab data, but I don't see it the other way around.
The increasing thickness (#s are > 0) represents spinal disc expansion. This would be expected in the weight of gravity were taken off the spine as in microgravity (white dots). My reasoning is that when suspended by rope/wires in normal G (black dots) the 2 opposing forces, weight and Tension, act to stretch the spine more than the lack of gravity alone.

The closest analogy I can come up with is a spring. Under normal G there is a weight pushing down on the spine, with normal force from the ground pushing up, so the spine/spring is compressed.

In micro-G, there is no net force on the spine so the "spring" elongates to some equilibrium position. where L 0g > L normal G

Finally, when suspended in air, the 2 opposing forces stretch the spine/spring, such that Lsuspended > L 0g

The slight curve of each data set (each individual vertebrae does not expand the same mount) would be due to the curved nature of the spine. Each spinal disc does not experience the same Force in each scenario.
 
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Here's the way I see it. First consider what happens to the spine of a subject standing on the surface of the Earth. The discs near the bottom will be compressed more than the ones near the head because they have to support the weight of the head plus the weight of the discs above them. In microgravity, I would expect the ones that are compressed more to expand more. Yet, the graph shows that the discs at the two ends expand less than the discs in the middle. That's what I don't understand. Maybe I'm trying to read too much in those plots and the question has to do just with what you mentioned, that the suspended subjects tend to stretch more because they are pulled by gravity hence their points are higher. Incidentally, do you know which end of the plot corresponds to the discs nearer the head, low cartilage position or high cartilage position?
 
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kuruman said:
Here's the way I see it. First consider what happens to the spine of a subject standing on the surface of the Earth. The discs near the bottom will be compressed more than the ones near the head because they have to support the weight of the head plus the weight of the discs above them. In microgravity, I would expect the ones that are compressed more to expand more. Yet, the graph shows that the discs at the two ends expand less than the discs in the middle. That's what I don't understand. Maybe I'm trying to read too much in those plots and the question has to do just with what you mentioned, that the suspended subjects tend to stretch more because they are pulled by gravity hence their points are higher. Incidentally, do you know which end of the plot corresponds to the discs nearer the head, low cartilage position or high cartilage position?
The vertebrae positions are in a legend below the figure. They are:

lumbar (1-5, lowest on the spine), thoracic (6-17, middle of spine) and cervical (18-25, highest on spine)

Thus, it shows that the spinal decompression/elongation is greatest in the thoracic discs in the micro-gravity environment, and are pretty consistent with some lows in the lumbar area in the suspension experiment. I think worrying about exact spinal locations is beyond the scope of the Q given the limited information I have.

Does my reasoning sound right? None of the other choices make any sense to me.
 
  • #6
BransonMO said:
Does my reasoning sound right? None of the other choices make any sense to me.
The other choices are nonsensical, I agree. Your reasoning sounds right. Subjects standing on Earth (control group) experience spinal compression. Subjects in microgravity experience no compression and their discs relax to an increased thickness. Subjects on Earth suspended by a harness also experience no compression but the relaxation of their discs is helped by the pull of whatever body weight is below them. In other words, the discs of the control group are under compression, the discs of the suspended group are under stretching and the discs of the microgravity group are under neither compression nor stretching. Hence one would expect a bigger increase in the suspended group.
 
  • #7
kuruman said:
The other choices are nonsensical, I agree. Your reasoning sounds right. Subjects standing on Earth (control group) experience spinal compression. Subjects in microgravity experience no compression and their discs relax to an increased thickness. Subjects on Earth suspended by a harness also experience no compression but the relaxation of their discs is helped by the pull of whatever body weight is below them. In other words, the discs of the control group are under compression, the discs of the suspended group are under stretching and the discs of the microgravity group are under neither compression nor stretching. Hence one would expect a bigger increase in the suspended group.
Thank you!
 

1. How does zero gravity affect spinal compression?

Zero gravity, or the absence of gravity, can cause the spine to stretch and decompress, resulting in a decrease in spinal compression. This is because without the pull of gravity, the vertebrae are not weighed down and are able to expand.

2. Can zero gravity cause spinal compression?

No, zero gravity does not cause spinal compression. In fact, it has the opposite effect and can temporarily relieve spinal compression due to the lack of gravity's force on the spine.

3. How long can a person stay in zero gravity before experiencing spinal compression?

The exact amount of time a person can stay in zero gravity before experiencing spinal compression varies depending on factors such as age, overall health, and level of physical activity. However, astronauts who spend prolonged periods of time in zero gravity can experience changes in spinal compression within a few days.

4. Are there any negative effects of zero gravity on spinal compression?

While zero gravity can provide temporary relief from spinal compression, prolonged exposure to zero gravity can also lead to muscle atrophy and other musculoskeletal issues. It is important for astronauts to maintain a regular exercise routine to combat these negative effects.

5. How can astronauts prevent spinal compression in zero gravity?

In order to prevent spinal compression in zero gravity, astronauts can perform specific exercises that target the muscles and tissues of the spine. These exercises can help maintain strength, flexibility, and spinal alignment while in a weightless environment.

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