Energy conservation of metallic balls

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of energy and moment conservation in solving a problem involving the final velocity of a largest mass and the middle ball not necessarily coming to rest at the critical point. The suggestion of using the COM system where conservation of momentum is satisfied and transforming into the COM frame to write down initial total energy and angular momentum are mentioned. It is also suggested to consider the time where the separation of the two smaller balls is least and the relative velocities are zero. Finally, a simple relation between the speeds of the three balls at this instant is mentioned.
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Homework Statement
Three small metallic balls, loaded with q charges, have masses equal to m, 4m and m. The balls are connected by insulating wires of each length and placed on a horizontal table without friction. Initially the balls are at rest in a straight line as shown. Then a quick horizontal push gives the central ball a velocity v directed perpendicular to the strings. Find the subsequent minimum distance D between the balls of dough m.
Relevant Equations
Q=mv (amount of moment)
E= Qq/4πex (potential energy)
I did energy conservation,
considering that the final velocity of the largest mass would be zero and I used moment conservation. But
I am not finding the answer . Where I maked a mistake?

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Go into COM system where conservation of momentum is satisfied. There formula of energy conservation and angular momentum conservation if you need in addition will tell you of it.
 
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Your initial energy is correct, but you do not have the correct idea of what happens next. The middle ball does not necessarily come to rest at the critical point!

Here is a "shortcut" way; transform into the COM frame and write down the initial total energy and angular momentum in this frame (initial angular momentum is zero!). These will be conserved quantities.

Now consider the time where the separation of the two smaller balls are least. The relative velocities of all components will be zero, so for an instant the configuration will behave like a rigid body rotating about its centre of mass. Except the angular momentum is zero so the total kinetic energy will be ##T = \frac{L^2}{2I} = 0##. Hence you can say$$E = E_{elec}(D)$$where ##E_{elec}(D)## is the electrical energy in terms of ##D## at the final configuration!
 
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As @etotheipi has pointed out, the middle ball does not come to rest when the other two balls are at minimum separatation. But there is a simple relation between the speeds of the three balls at this instant. Once you see what it is, you will just need to fix up your momentum equation. Everything else looks good. Or, you can try some of the other suggestions.
 

1. What is energy conservation of metallic balls?

Energy conservation of metallic balls is the principle that states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be transformed from one form to another. In the case of metallic balls, this means that the total amount of energy in a system of metallic balls will remain constant, even as the balls undergo various forms of motion and interactions.

2. How does energy conservation apply to metallic balls?

In the case of metallic balls, energy conservation applies in various ways. For example, when a ball is dropped from a height, its potential energy is converted into kinetic energy as it falls. When the ball hits the ground, some of its kinetic energy is transferred to the ground as sound and heat, while the rest is conserved in the form of elastic potential energy as the ball bounces back up.

3. Why is energy conservation important in the study of metallic balls?

Energy conservation is important in the study of metallic balls because it allows us to predict and understand the behavior of the balls in various situations. By knowing that the total energy in the system remains constant, we can accurately predict the outcome of interactions between metallic balls and other objects, such as the ground or other balls.

4. Can energy be lost in a system of metallic balls?

No, energy cannot be lost in a system of metallic balls. As stated by the principle of energy conservation, energy can only be transformed from one form to another. This means that even if some energy is transferred from the balls to the environment, the total energy in the system will remain constant.

5. How does friction affect energy conservation in metallic balls?

Friction can have a significant impact on energy conservation in metallic balls. When two balls collide, some of their kinetic energy is converted into heat due to friction between the balls. This means that the total energy in the system decreases slightly, but it is still conserved overall. Friction can also affect the motion of the balls, causing them to lose some energy in the form of heat as they roll or slide against a surface.

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