Experiment design FTL particle though magnetic field

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of using magnetic bearings and superconductors to move a magnetic beam faster than the speed of light. However, it is determined that this is not possible due to the limitations of mass and the propagation of magnetic fields. The thread is then locked for moderation due to the discussion of personal theories.
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Hi. I was browsing Wikipedia on a topic, went to magnetic bearings, etc etc...ended up on synchrotron radiation then the phrase about how a moving or accelerat/ing/ed particle passing through a magnetic field generates electromagnetic radiation.
Then I has a revelation.
How to get a particle moving faster than c in relation to the magnetic field it touches.
You keep the particle static and move the magnetic field across the particle at more than c.
1) a magnetic field generator, box A, makes a long sharp magnetic beam thorough an opening on top face of box...beam must be 11.5 meters long.
2) a superconductor plate, mirror B, at 45% angle reflects the 11m long magnetic beam. Mirror B spins at 300k rpm and sits on top of box A at less than 0.5m.
So I guess magnetic bearing and vacuum for such rpms?!?, so there must be a vacuum enclosure but it must let magnetic beam pass and extend so it goes on for the whole 11m horizontally.
So recap... box A shots a beam up through opening on top side to mirror B at 45% ...beam is reflected by superconductor and travels horizontally for 11m.
Since beam is 11m long and rpm is 300k, at the 11m point the beam would have a speed of 345575.191895 m/s relative to a round wall that's 22m in diameter.
The wall's particles are moving at 345575 m/s thorough a magnetic field... or while touching a magnetic field.
Who knows what new type of electromagnetic or non-em radiation or effects we might see above c.
 
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Here's a schematic.
 

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Sorry, but that won't work. Work still has to be done on the particle to increase its speed, and the particle's mass becomes infinite as its speed approaches the speed of light. Since you cannot do infinite work, you cannot have a particle with mass reach (let alone exceed) the speed of light.
 
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Work still has to be done...aka the wall's static particles are moving at 345575 m/s AGAINST the magnetic beam.
No ?

I mean you can have a magnet on a table and move particles through it with your hand OR pick up the magnet and move it over the particles... But in this design we keep everything static, particles and magnet, BUT move the magnetic beam... Kind of like in that tfl though experiment when you can say that a laser pointed across the moon's surface from the Earth will move across the moon's surface at ridiculous speeds...
We're using leverage to get a magnetic beam sweep across an object, made of particles, at v > c.
 
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Okay, I think I see what you're saying.

Still no. The change in magnetic field propagates with finite speed even though the end point of the beam may appear to move with a speed greater than c, so you're still not accelerating anything past the speed of light. See this video by Veritasium

Also, magnetic fields can't be focused into beams like lasers.
 
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Well not laser like but flashlight style.
So you're saying that a 11m long match's head , rotating at 300k rpm on a mount, isn't brushing against a wall at 345575 m/s ?
 
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OK here's the ver 2.0

The field is now continuous as is not only a beam but a full planar slice.
Now let's say that at the walls surface there's some penetration... Like 1 cm.
So now the disk of magnetic pole or whatever you want to call it is encompassing 1 cm of solid material while moving at 345575 m/s.

I'm interested in what effects or new undiscovered strange phenomenon that 1 cm layer of material will demonstrate when it has a magnetic beam moving thorough it at that speed.
 

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In your scenario, nothing is really traveling faster than the speed of light. No new physics will come out of that.

PF does not allow the discussion of personal theories, so the thread will remain closed.
 

1. What is an FTL particle?

An FTL (Faster Than Light) particle is a theoretical particle that is able to travel faster than the speed of light. This concept is still being studied and has not been proven to exist.

2. How is the FTL particle being studied?

Scientists use various experimental methods, such as particle accelerators, to study the properties and behavior of particles, including FTL particles. They also use mathematical models and simulations to understand how these particles could interact with other particles and fields.

3. What is the purpose of the magnetic field in this experiment?

The magnetic field is used to manipulate and control the FTL particles in the experiment. By adjusting the strength and direction of the magnetic field, scientists can observe how the FTL particles behave and interact with the field.

4. How does the design of the experiment impact the results?

The design of the experiment is crucial in ensuring accurate and reliable results. Factors such as the type of equipment used, the control of variables, and the proper measurement techniques all play a significant role in the outcome of the experiment.

5. What are the potential implications of successfully creating and controlling FTL particles?

If FTL particles are proven to exist and can be controlled, it could potentially revolutionize the field of physics and open up new possibilities for space travel and communication. It could also lead to a better understanding of the fundamental laws of the universe.

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