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In summary, I am reshaping my course on special relativity (master level intermediate relativity course, I am getting it back after having the GR course instead for a number of years) and I find myself wanting to include two things:- A more geometrical approach to Minkowski space.- Basic classical relativistic field theory in Lagrangian form. Essentially discussing the restrictions arising from requiring the Lagrangian density to be a Lorentz scalar and the resulting implications for scalar and vector fields (essentially the classical KG field and electromagnetism).I have some trouble finding a good textbook, particularly when it comes to the second requirement. Does anyone know of any good choices?
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I am reshaping my course on special relativity (master level intermediate relativity course, I am getting it back after having the GR course instead for a number of years) and I find myself wanting to include two things:

- A more geometrical approach to Minkowski space.
- Basic classical relativistic field theory in Lagrangian form. Essentially discussing the restrictions arising from requiring the Lagrangian density to be a Lorentz scalar and the resulting implications for scalar and vector fields (essentially the classical KG field and electromagnetism).

I have some trouble finding a good textbook, particularly when it comes to the second requirement. Does anyone know of any good choices?

Edit: It won't hurt if it also includes introductory GR as many students will be taking both courses.

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Orodruin said:
I am reshaping my course on special relativity (master level intermediate relativity course, I am getting it back after having the GR course instead for a number of years) and I find myself wanting to include two things:

- A more geometrical approach to Minkowski space.
- Basic classical relativistic field theory in Lagrangian form. Essentially discussing the restrictions arising from requiring the Lagrangian density to be a Lorentz scalar and the resulting implications for scalar and vector fields (essentially the classical KG field and electromagnetism).

I have some trouble finding a good textbook, particularly when it comes to the second requirement. Does anyone know of any good choices?

Edit: It won't hurt if it also includes introductory GR as many students will be taking both courses.

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Concerning classical relativistic field theory, I like

D. E. Soper, Classical field theory, Dover Publications, Minneola, New York (2008).

dealing with (ideal) fluid dynamics, elastics, and (in-medium) electrodynamics, everything based on the action principle (Lagrangian).
 
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Soper's book is built on an older one by Asim Barut.
 
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This set of books by Andrew Steane ( https://users.physics.ox.ac.uk/~Steane/ ) might be something of possible interest:
https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=steane

I haven't looked at these in detail

Relativity Made Relatively Easy: vol 1 and vol 2
https://www.amazon.com/dp/019966286X/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0192893548/?tag=pfamazon01-20Also possibly interesting (based on their tables of contents):
Relativity Matters by Johann Rafelski
https://www.amazon.com/dp/3319512307/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Core Principles of Special and General Relativity
by James Luscombe
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1138542946/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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malawi_glenn said:
Maybe Joe Minahans lecture notes would work https://www.physics.uu.se/digitalAssets/405/c_405910-l_3-k_specrel.pdf
IIRC it does not treat KG, but tensors, EM and Lagrangians.
(I used them when I took his relativity course about 15y ago)
Fun fact: I sat in the same PhD grading committee as Joe this past spring. We both questioned the respondent’s claim that there are no Weyl fermions in the standard model …

vanhees71 said:
D. E. Soper, Classical field theory, Dover Publications, Minneola, New York (2008).
This is so cheap I had to order it on the spot.

Will look into the rest of the suggestions also of course.
 
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Orodruin said:
We both questioned the respondent’s claim that there are no Weyl fermions in the standard model …
What kind of fermions did the respondent think were in the SM? :eek:
 
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robphy said:
This set of books by Andrew Steane ( https://users.physics.ox.ac.uk/~Steane/ ) might be something of possible interest:
https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=steane

I haven't looked at these in detail

Relativity Made Relatively Easy: vol 1 and vol 2
https://www.amazon.com/dp/019966286X/?tag=pfamazon01-20
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0192893548/?tag=pfamazon01-20Also possibly interesting (based on their tables of contents):
Relativity Matters by Johann Rafelski
https://www.amazon.com/dp/3319512307/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Core Principles of Special and General Relativity
by James Luscombe
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1138542946/?tag=pfamazon01-20
Be careful with Rafelsky's book...
 
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I have not looked at Rafelsky, but agree with @vanhees71 . Johann Rafelsky has an..um...unique way of looking at things. That may be agood, It may not be.
 
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Orodruin said:
- A more geometrical approach to Minkowski space.
- Basic classical relativistic field theory in Lagrangian form. Essentially discussing the restrictions arising from requiring the Lagrangian density to be a Lorentz scalar and the resulting implications for scalar and vector fields (essentially the classical KG field and electromagnetism).
Probably too abstract and/or too advanced and/or too detailed, but the book "Special Relativity in General Frames" by Eric Gourgoulhon has some really nice geometrical stuff.
 
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George Jones said:
Probably too abstract and/or too advanced and/or too detailed, but the book "Special Relativity in General Frames" by Eric Gourgoulhon has some really nice geometrical stuff.
This looks quite promising. It is very extensive at about 800 pages, probably too much for my 1/4 semester course, but it turns out my university has a Springer subscription so it should be available to the students for free in electronic form, which is a big plus.
 
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Orodruin said:
probably too much for my 1/4 semester course

Are you saying that your course is a short course lasting 0.25 semesters?
(Maybe I am misunderstanding "1/4 semester".)
 
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Orodruin said:
[...](master level intermediate relativity course, [...]

- A more geometrical approach to Minkowski space.
Since the course is "master level", have you considered abandoning the light postulate? :oldbiggrin:
 
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Orodruin said:
It is very extensive at about 800 pages, probably too much for my 1/4 semester course

robphy said:
Are you saying that your course is a short course lasting 0.25 semesters?
(Maybe I am misunderstanding "1/4 semester".)
If so, here 1/4 semester would be nine 50-minute lectures, or about 89 pages per lecture!
 
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robphy said:
Are you saying that your course is a short course lasting 0.25 semesters?
(Maybe I am misunderstanding "1/4 semester".)
It runs over half a semester, but the credits correspond to 1/4 of the semester so typically students take several courses at the same time.

I have 12 90-minute lectures.
 
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George Jones said:
If so, here 1/4 semester would be nine 50-minute lectures, or about 89 pages per lecture!
So … significantly below my usual pace! 😂
 
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vanhees71 said:
Be careful with Rafelsky's book...
Can you explicitly state the reason for this?

Vanadium 50 said:
I have not looked at Rafelsky, but agree with @vanhees71 . Johann Rafelsky has an..um...unique way of looking at things. That may be agood, It may not be.
Is it possible for you to expound on your statement?
 
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A blurb from the back cover of Rafelski's book:

Rafelski presents Special Relativity in a language deemed accessible to students without any topical preparation - avoiding the burden of geometry, tensor calculus, and space-time symmetries – and yet advancing in highly contemporary context all the way to research frontiers.​

That's unusual...
 
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This book I don't even mention. It's even worse than the other one ("Relaivity matters").
 
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vela said:
avoiding the burden of geometry, tensor calculus, and space-time symmetries
So ... physics without the actual insights ...
 
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1. What is an intermediate SR textbook?

An intermediate SR textbook is a textbook that covers intermediate-level material in the field of SR (Special Relativity). It assumes a basic understanding of the concepts of SR and builds upon them to cover more advanced topics.

2. Who is the target audience for an intermediate SR textbook?

The target audience for an intermediate SR textbook is typically students who have completed an introductory course in SR or have a solid understanding of the basic concepts. It can also be useful for researchers or professionals in related fields who want to deepen their understanding of SR.

3. What topics are typically covered in an intermediate SR textbook?

Topics covered in an intermediate SR textbook may include Lorentz transformations, time dilation, length contraction, relativistic energy and momentum, four-vectors, and the geometry of spacetime.

4. How is an intermediate SR textbook different from an introductory one?

An intermediate SR textbook goes into more depth and covers more advanced topics than an introductory one. It assumes a higher level of mathematical and conceptual understanding and may also include more complex problem-solving exercises.

5. Can an intermediate SR textbook be used as a standalone resource?

It depends on the individual's background and goals. An intermediate SR textbook may be used as a standalone resource for someone who has a strong understanding of the basics of SR and wants to delve deeper into the subject. However, it may be more beneficial to use it in conjunction with other resources, such as lectures or practice problems, to fully grasp the material.

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