Exploring "The Mathematical Theory of Black Holes" by S. Chandrasekhar

In summary: But when you're given a generic metric, there is no reason not to write it in contravariant coordinates. In fact, I already did in eq (9) above, which is equivalent to the formula in the book.In summary, in page 67 of the book "The mathematical theory of black holes" by S. Chandrasekhar in chapter 2 "Space-Time of sufficient generality", there is a theorem that states that the metric of a 2-dimensional space can be brought to a diagonal form. This is done by introducing new contravariant coordinates and using the general transformation formula for tensors. By setting one component of the transformed metric to zero, the remaining components can be solved for the new coordinates. This method is
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In page 67 of book "The mathematical theory of black holes" by S. Chandrasekhar in chapter 2 "Space-Time of sufficient generality" there is a theorem that metric of a 2-dimensional space
$$ds^2 = g_{11} (dx^1)^2 + 2g_{12} dx^1 dx^2 + g_{22} (dx^2)^2$$
can be brought to a diagonal form.

I would do this in the following way: introduce new contravariant coordinates ##x'## (how ##x## depend on ##x'##) ##x^1 = p(x'^1, x'^2), x^2= q(x'^1, x'^2)##, differentiate them, plug ##dx^1## and ##dx^2## into the metric above, and equate factor at ##dx'^1 dx'^2## to zero.

That is not how it is done in the book. First they introduce new contravariant coordinates ##x'## such that the inverse functions are defined (how ##x'## depend on ##x##) Eq.(6)
$$x'^1=\phi(x^1,x^2),\qquad x'^2=\psi(x^1,x^2)$$
then they try to reduce to the diagonal form the contravariant form of the metric (##g^{\mu\nu}## with up indexes, ##dx_\mu## with low indexes) Eq.(7),
$$ds^2=g^{11}(dx_1)^2+2g^{12}dx_1dx_2+g^{22}(dx_2)^2$$
though coordinate transformations are defined for contravariant coordinates (up indexes).

I cannot follow the logic of the derivation.

Could you help me to understand how it is derived in the book?

Thank you.

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kparchevsky said:
[...] they introduce new contravariant coordinates ##x'## such that the inverse functions are defined (how ##x'## depend on ##x##) Eq.(6)$$x'^1=\phi(x^1,x^2),\qquad x'^2=\psi(x^1,x^2)$$ then they try to reduce to the diagonal form the contravariant form of the metric (##g^{\mu\nu}## with up indexes, ##dx_\mu## with low indexes) Eq.(7),

kparchevsky said:
$$ ds^2=g^{11}(dx_1)^2+2g^{12}dx_1dx_2+g^{22}(dx_2)^2$$ though coordinate transformations are defined for contravariant coordinates (up indexes). I cannot follow the logic of the derivation.
You didn't say at which equation in the book you get stuck. Do you understand eqs (8) and (9)? They're basically just specific cases of the general transformation formula$$g'^{\mu\nu} ~=~ \frac{\partial x'^\mu}{\partial x^\alpha} \; \frac{\partial x'^\nu}{\partial x^\beta} \; g^{\alpha\beta} ~,$$ although Chandrasekhar uses a notation convention of putting primes on the indices rather than the main symbol as I've done above.
 
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strangerep said:
You didn't say at which equation in the book you get stuck. Do you understand eqs (8) and (9)? They're basically just specific cases of the general transformation formula$$g'^{\mu\nu} ~=~ \frac{\partial x'^\mu}{\partial x^\alpha} \; \frac{\partial x'^\nu}{\partial x^\beta} \; g^{\alpha\beta} ~,$$ although Chandrasekhar uses a notation convention of putting primes on the indices rather than the main symbol as I've done above.
Thank you. Trying to prove Eq.(8) I took differential from both sides of Eq.(6), solved it for ##dx^i##, converted it to ##dx_i##, plugged into Eq.(7) and zeroed term at ##dx'^i dx'^j##, but I just had to use the definition of a tensor! The rest of derivation in the book is clear.
 
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Can't you just see this by counting? In 2 dimensions the metric has 1/2×2×3=3 independent components. With 2 general coordinate transformations (gct's) you have enough freedom to put one component to zero. Explicitly you can write down the transformed compononent for g_12, put it to zero, and see what constraints you get for the gct. This partially gauge fixes the gct's.

I don't get why you use "covariant coordinates" in the first place. For a similar calculation, see any book on string theory how to gauge fix the worldsheet metric and why this implicates that string theory is a CFT.
 
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haushofer said:
Can't you just see this by counting? In 2 dimensions the metric has 1/2×2×3=3 independent components. With 2 general coordinate transformations (gct's) you have enough freedom to put one component to zero. Explicitly you can write down the transformed compononent for g_12, put it to zero, and see what constraints you get for the gct. This partially gauge fixes the gct's.

I don't get why you use "covariant coordinates" in the first place. For a similar calculation, see any book on string theory how to gauge fix the worldsheet metric and why this implicates that string theory is a CFT.
>I don't get why you use "covariant coordinates" in the first place
The goal was to prove the specific formula in the specific book, and this formula was written in covariant coordinates.
 

1. What is the mathematical theory of black holes?

The mathematical theory of black holes is a branch of study within physics that uses mathematical equations and models to describe the properties and behavior of black holes, which are regions of space with such intense gravitational pull that nothing, including light, can escape from them.

2. Who is S. Chandrasekhar and why is he important in this field?

S. Chandrasekhar, also known as Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, was an Indian-American astrophysicist who made significant contributions to the mathematical theory of black holes. He is best known for his work on the Chandrasekhar limit, which describes the maximum mass of a stable white dwarf star, and for his pioneering research on the structure and evolution of stars.

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