Facts of 9/11 - need confirmation

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In summary, the conversation discusses the lack of knowledge about the events of 9/11 and the search for information through internet research. The individual shares several alleged facts, including questions about the collapse of WTC 7, the involvement of Marvin Bush in a security company for the WTC, the speed of the building collapses, and the purchase of a large insurance policy. They also mention the discrepancy in funding for investigating 9/11 compared to the Clinton scandal, the missing black boxes from the crashed plane, and the discovery of gold in a truck instead of the vault. The conversation suggests that further information can be found in the Skepticism and Debunking forum.
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I've come to realzed that i don't know much what really happened on 9/11 so i decided to do some research on the internet. I found the the following alleged facts to be very fascinating. I don't know whether these to be true or not. They may be just made up with lack of evidence to stir up conspiracy theories. There are so many statements made regarding 9/11 that i don't really don't whether they're trrue or false. So please help to check whether these alleged facts are true or not:

1. There are still questions on how WTC 7 collapsed. Structural steels from the collapsed were cut up as scrap and sold to other countries before any comprehensive study can be done.

2. Marvin Bush, younger brother of George W. Bush was the director for Securacom, a company that provided security for the WTC and Dulles Airport up to the day of the attack. The company was backed by a Kuwait-American investment firm.

3. All three buildings (WTC 1,2,7) collapsed at or near free fall speed.

4. Larry Silverstein bought a $3.5 billion insurance policy for the trade center two months before 9/11

5. Only a small fraction of the money was spent to investigate the 9/11 attacks compared to theone spent on the Clinton's scandal.

6. Some or not all the black boxes from the crashed plane were not found.

7. $200 million worth of gold was recovered but it was found in a truck not in the vault. No one know why it was in a truck.

This is all i can think of right now. I might have some more later.
 
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We banned discussion of this topic a while back because it was getting out of hand. Feel free to search the Skepticism and Debunking forum, though, where all of the old threads are contained. The info you're looking for should be there.
 
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As a scientist, it is important to rely on evidence and facts rather than speculation or conspiracy theories. The events of 9/11 have been extensively studied and investigated by numerous organizations, including the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the 9/11 Commission. These investigations have provided clear and conclusive evidence about what happened on that day.

Regarding the collapse of WTC 7, NIST conducted a thorough investigation and determined that the collapse was caused by fire and damage from falling debris. The structural steel from the building was not cut up and sold before a study could be done, as this would go against standard protocol for investigating a structural failure.

The claim that Marvin Bush was the director of a security company that provided services for the WTC and Dulles Airport is also false. While Marvin Bush was a director at Securacom, the company did not provide security services for the WTC or Dulles Airport. Additionally, there is no evidence to suggest that any insider knowledge or involvement in the attacks played a role in the company's contracts.

The collapse of all three buildings at near free fall speed is a common misconception. NIST's investigation found that the collapse of each building took approximately 18 seconds, which is consistent with the time it would take for a building to collapse due to structural failure.

The claim that Larry Silverstein bought a $3.5 billion insurance policy for the trade center two months before 9/11 is also false. Silverstein leased the WTC from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and had insurance coverage for the buildings. However, the amount of insurance coverage was not $3.5 billion and it was not purchased just two months before the attacks.

It is also incorrect to say that only a small fraction of money was spent to investigate the 9/11 attacks compared to the Clinton scandal. The 9/11 Commission alone had a budget of $15 million, and numerous other investigations and studies were conducted by government agencies and independent organizations.

Regarding the black boxes from the crashed planes, most of them were in fact recovered and provided valuable information for the investigations. However, some of the boxes were damaged and the data could not be retrieved.

Lastly, the claim that $200 million worth of gold was recovered from the WTC but found in a truck instead of the vault is false. No gold was recovered from the WTC, and the only gold that was found in a truck was from a gold depository
 

What are the facts surrounding the events of 9/11?

The facts surrounding the events of 9/11 include the terrorist attacks that took place on September 11, 2001, where four commercial airplanes were hijacked by members of the terrorist group Al-Qaeda. Two planes were flown into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, one into the Pentagon in Washington D.C., and the fourth crashed into a field in Pennsylvania. Nearly 3,000 people were killed in these attacks, making it the deadliest terrorist attack in history.

Was there any evidence of the involvement of Al-Qaeda in the 9/11 attacks?

Yes, there is extensive evidence that links the terrorist group Al-Qaeda to the 9/11 attacks. This evidence includes the confessions of the hijackers, the messages and videos released by Al-Qaeda claiming responsibility for the attacks, and the connections between the hijackers and known members of Al-Qaeda. Additionally, investigations by the FBI and other agencies have uncovered further evidence of Al-Qaeda's involvement.

Were there any warning signs or intelligence prior to the 9/11 attacks?

Yes, there were several warning signs and intelligence that indicated a potential terrorist attack prior to 9/11. In the months leading up to the attacks, there were reports of increased chatter among known terrorist groups, as well as intelligence warnings from foreign governments. The CIA also had information about potential hijackings and the use of airplanes as weapons, but this information was not shared with other agencies or acted upon.

What was the impact of the 9/11 attacks on national security and policies?

The 9/11 attacks had a significant impact on national security and policies in the United States. The attacks led to the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and the implementation of stricter security measures at airports and other public places. It also sparked the War on Terror, which resulted in the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq and the passing of the USA PATRIOT Act, which expanded the government's surveillance and intelligence-gathering powers.

Are there any conspiracy theories surrounding the 9/11 attacks?

Yes, there are various conspiracy theories surrounding the 9/11 attacks, including claims that the attacks were an inside job orchestrated by the US government. However, these theories have been widely debunked by scientific evidence and the findings of official investigations, which have concluded that the attacks were carried out by Al-Qaeda terrorists. There is no credible evidence to support these conspiracy theories.

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