Find Null Paths in Differentiable Manifolds Using One-Forms

In summary, the conversation discusses the use of one-forms in differentiable manifolds and the importance of being rigorous in their manipulation. The example provided shows how treating one-forms as differentials in calculus can lead to incorrect results and the importance of distinguishing between the operators and scalars. However, the expert summarizer notes that there may not be any major issues with manipulating the operators as scalars, as long as they are linear and associative. The only potential issue would be if they commute, which requires further investigation.
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Suppose that we have this metric and want to find null paths:

[tex]ds^2=-dt^2+dx^2[/tex]

We can easily treat [tex]dt[/tex] and [tex]dx[/tex] "like" differentials in calculus and obtain for $$ds=0$$

[tex]dx=\pm dt \to x=\pm t[/tex]

Now switch to the more abstract and rigorous one-forms in differentiable manifolds.

Here [tex]\mathrm{d}t (v)[/tex] is a one-form that takes a tangent vector from [tex]T_p[/tex] and returns a real number, [tex]\mathrm {d}t(v) \in \mathbb {R}[/tex].

The tangent vector to a curve [tex]x^{\mu}(\lambda)[/tex] in the basis [tex]\partial_\mu[/tex] is

[tex]v=\frac {dx^\mu}{d\lambda}\partial_\mu[/tex]

Now apply the one-form to this vector

$$\mathrm {d}t(\frac {dx^\mu}{d\lambda}\partial_\mu)=\frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda}\mathrm {d}t(\partial_\mu)$$
$$ =\frac{dx^\mu}{d\lambda}\frac {\partial t}{\partial x^\mu}$$
$$=\frac {dt}{d\lambda}$$

Now the above metric, in terms of one-forms read

$$0=-\mathrm {d}t^2(v,v)+\mathrm {d}x^2(v,v)=-\mathrm {d}t(v)\mathrm {d}t(v)+\mathrm{d}x(v)\mathrm {d}x(v)$$$$=-(\frac {dt}{d\lambda})^2+(\frac {dx}{d\lambda})^2$$

If we use the chain rule $$\frac {dx}{dt}=\frac {dx}{d\lambda}\frac {d\lambda}{dt}$$

We eventually obtain $$dx=\pm dt \to x=\pm t$$

The above is from Carroll's page 77. He reminds us that we should stick to the second more formal one-forms, that is not using differentials as in calculus, because in the first shortcut we have "sloppily" did not make the distinction between $$\mathrm {d}t^2(v)$$ and $$dt^2$$.

Now my question is that can someone please provide an example that unlike the above example, treating the one-form in differentiable manifolds as a differential in calculus will indeed produce incorrect results or conclusions.
 
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Well, while I agree that it's good to conceptually remember that one-forms are operators (which operate on vectors) which return scalar values, I'm not aware of any difficulties if you happen to forget to be that formal and just manipulate the operators as if they were scalars, rather than operators.

The operators are linear, and associative. I suppose the only issue is if they commute, I haven't tried to think about this rigorously enough to come to any conclusion. Specifically we should ask if dx*dy = dy*dx, if they both operate on v^2.
 

Related to Find Null Paths in Differentiable Manifolds Using One-Forms

1. What are one-forms in differential geometry?

One-forms are linear functionals on the tangent space of a differentiable manifold. They can be thought of as "dual vectors" to tangent vectors, and are used to define notions such as gradients and differentials in differential geometry.

2. How can one-forms be used to find null paths in differentiable manifolds?

One-forms can be used to identify null paths, or paths that have zero tangent vector, by checking if the one-form evaluated at each point along the path is equal to zero. If this is the case, it indicates that the path is a null path.

3. What is the significance of finding null paths in differentiable manifolds?

Null paths can be useful in identifying critical points and saddle points in a differentiable manifold, as well as in studying the behavior of vector fields and flows on the manifold.

4. How are one-forms related to differential forms?

One-forms are a special case of differential forms, which are multilinear functionals on the tangent space of a manifold. Differential forms include not only one-forms, but also higher degree forms such as two-forms, three-forms, etc.

5. Are there any practical applications of finding null paths in differentiable manifolds?

Yes, finding null paths can have applications in fields such as physics, engineering, and computer science. For example, in physics, null paths can represent paths of light or other electromagnetic radiation, and in computer science, they can be used in optimization algorithms.

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