Firing an object into orbit using a moon's gravity

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of launching an object into orbit without using rockets on a planet with a moon. It is mentioned that without a moon, the best one could do is make the object loop back to its starting point. However, with a moon's gravity, it may be possible to launch the object in a way that it ends up in a stable orbit around the main planet. The idea of using a "cannon" to launch the object close enough to the moon to deflect it into a non-returning orbit is also discussed, but it may not be entirely stable.
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guss
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Let's say I'm on a planet and I have a space "gun" that can launch an object upwards at any speed in any direction.

Typically with this, you could not launch an object without any rockets into orbit because the best you could do is make the object loop around the planet to exactly where it started.

Now, introduce a moon orbiting the same planet. Using this moon's gravity, is it possible to construct a speed and direction for the object to be shot at so that it ends up in an orbit around the main planet?
 
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guss said:
Typically with this, you could not launch an object without any rockets into orbit because the best you could do is make the object loop around the planet to exactly where it started.

Are you sure about that?
 
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guss said:
Typically with this, you could not launch an object without any rockets into orbit because the best you could do is make the object loop around the planet to exactly where it started.
That's an orbit too. I guess you mean some other orbit, which doesn't return to the launch point. If you include air resitance in the atmosphere this is allready the case. You can fire it above escape velocity, but it will lose some speed in the atmosphere. But I'm not sure you could achieve a stable orbit above the atmosphere this way.

guss said:
Now, introduce a moon orbiting the same planet. Using this moon's gravity, is it possible to construct a speed and direction for the object to be shot at so that it ends up in an orbit around the main planet?
Maybe if you launch it above the Planet's escape velocity, but below the Planet+Moon escape velocity?
 
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guss said:
Typically with this, you could not launch an object without any rockets into orbit because the best you could do is make the object loop around the planet to exactly where it started.

Maybe not in principle but absolutely right if you are talking about a 'normal' orbit around the Earth. With a lot of care, you could organise a 'cannon' shot to pass close enough to the Moon to deflect the craft into an orbit that would not return to its launch point. I suspect that this orbit could give you trouble 'next time around' if it came close to the Moon again and it might not be too stable. You would be after an elliptical orbit with fairly low eccentricity, I presume?
 

Related to Firing an object into orbit using a moon's gravity

1. How does using a moon's gravity help in firing an object into orbit?

Using a moon's gravity, also known as a gravity assist or slingshot maneuver, can help an object gain speed and change its trajectory, making it easier to enter and maintain orbit around a planet.

2. Can any moon be used for a gravity assist?

No, not all moons have enough mass or the right trajectory to provide a useful gravity assist. The moon must also be in the right position and have the correct velocity relative to the object being fired into orbit.

3. How do scientists calculate the trajectory for a gravity assist?

Scientists use complex mathematical equations and computer simulations to determine the exact trajectory needed for a gravity assist. They also take into account other factors such as the moon's gravitational pull and the object's velocity.

4. Are there any risks involved in using a moon's gravity for firing an object into orbit?

While there are always risks involved in space travel, the use of a moon's gravity for a gravity assist is a well-established and commonly used maneuver in space exploration. With careful calculations and planning, the risks can be minimized.

5. Can a moon's gravity be used to fire an object out of orbit?

Yes, a moon's gravity can be used in the opposite way to slow down and change the trajectory of an object, effectively firing it out of orbit. This can be useful in certain missions or for spacecraft returning to Earth.

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